Nate Dorward

Yeah the Iyer's great stuff--I think his most fully rounded CD to date.

Ceceil Taylor & Sam Rivers.

I have one Cold Blue disc by Chas Smith. I listened to it once & don't remember a thing about it. Incidentally, just finished a piece on Scott Rosenberg, Jim Baker, Anton Hatwich & Tim Daisy's New Folk, New Blues on 482 Music. Anyone heard this one? I liked it a lot. Plenty of vim 'n' vigour but also a spry sense of humour--Baker epigrammatic (little blibs & blaps at the analogue synth, as well as piano plus an interlude for aluminum foil), Rosenberg in outlandish, gargoyle mode, & Daisy & Hatwich making some powerful almost-grooves (well actually there's a swinging freebop section on the 3rd track). Nice stuff.

He's been playing old-style jazz for years, running a radio show featuring traditional jazz, has had a record label devoted to traditional jazz, &c. I don't follow his work, but the interest & involvement in early jazz has certainly been lifelong.

Hobart Dotson.

Caught them in Toronto--good gig, though poorly attended (12 people). Daisy sounds better & better each time I hear him.

In terms of "famous albums I wish I'd heard" (as opposed to ones I'm not terribly curious about, e.g. the aforementioned Pink Floyd) I think most of them would be classic country albums. E.g. I only have a few Carter Family tracks on a compilation (the 1927 Bristol Sessions). I don't own any Merle Haggard or George Jones at the moment. In terms of jazz, hm. For ones I have never knowingly heard: The Heliocentric Worlds of Sun Ra (all 3 vols). For ones I have heard often on the radio but don't actually own: Birth of the Cool & Africa/Brass. This all reminds me of the game Humiliation in David Lodge's Changing Places--you score points by naming things you haven't read--you get a point for every person in the room who HAS read it. (The clincher is when one English prof wins a round of Humiliation by confessing he's never read Hamlet--word of this gets to his department head & he loses his job.)

Hm...been years since I saw a concert there. Where are the acoustics like? The right acoustics for a baroque ensemble aren't always good for a jazz quintet.....

A note from Karen Brookman to say Derek Bailey's got a new one out on Incus: The Gospel Record (Reference Edition, with Amy Denio (voice) and Dennis Palmer (voice, synth, sampler). The first new Incus CD release for a while (as opposed to CDR & DVD).

Yeah you might want to clarify which Marsalis it is in the phrase "Marsalis-trained trumpeter".......! Ellis is fine, Wynton...well, that's a whole 'nother thread. It doesn't matter so much here, but let's just say watch out if you post a promo to Jazz Corner, where I try to avoid mentioning Marsalis at all (because both the pro- & anti-sides there are rabid & equally boring). Anyway, good luck with the venture! I don't know Sperandei at all, but I'm sure I'll make it to at least one of the gigs, & probably the NY Centre workshop.

Hi there Keita--I take it the gentleman behind the counter at North York Central Library? -- You'll probably want to check in with Luke Kaven, who's also on this board, as his Smalls Records label has released discs by both Goold & Caine. In fact Jim Sangrey started a thread about the Goold here: http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=11021 BTW why does Sperandei call his group both a quintet & an ensemble? Isn't the former a species of the latter? I don't know if Wynton Marsalis & Harry Connick are names to conjure with for everyone here .......

Butts is British not American, so there's no reason for her to be in the Gioia et al book. Plus most of her poetry remains unpublished I believe (unless there's a recent edition I missed? I haven't read Butts for a little while). There's a longish poem of hers in Keith Tuma's Oxford anthology, FWIW.

Yep, they're from Freak Out. We been had!

This reminds me that I've always found it a bit odd that by & large it's expected that if you read poetry you write poetry. I don't write it, but I find that virtually everyone assumes I do (I've even have several solicitations for work) because I read it & publish it.

The 1st one is Premium Plastics--review here.

Davie's first two books of criticism (Purity of Diction & Articulate Energy) are still marvellous, stimulating reads (though I suspect like Empson's 7 types of ambiguity no-one really remembers the various types of syntax Davie enumerates after the book's closed...). His Pound book is great too, & the Hardy/British poetry book is rather awkward & angry & self-contradictory (much of the more acrid stuff arising from his bitterness over his time at Essex at his move to Stanford) but nonetheless excellent too. Carcanet reprinted both of them with supplementary essays, both highly worth getting. Davie was always very good at singling out notable writers at key points in their careers--Charles Tomlinson, Ed Dorn, Tom Raworth, FT Prince, JH Prynne, & Roy Fisher, for instance. I don't know quite what to make of his poetry--any suggestions, Larry? I have just a selected poems on the shelf (one of those later pulped 3fers from Paladin: Ghosts in the Corridor with CH Sisson & Andrew Crozier). I'm just looking at Keith Tuma's selection in the OUP anthology (Keith is an enormous admirer of Davie's) & see that the selection is entirely short lyrics: "Hearing Russian Spoken", "Rejoinder to a Critic", "Rodez", " Out of East Anglia", "A Conditioned Air", "Inditing a Good Matter". Which skips Davie's best-known poem "Remembering the 1930s", though as a poem (rather than criticism) it's got its clutzy bits so maybe that's why it got left out. On an unrelated note, I've just been looking at Peter Middleton's Distant Reading from U Alabama Press, & it's one of the most interesting books of criticism on poetry I've come across for a while.

Don't they have 3 discs out? Which ones are you guys talking about exactly?

For non-Monk work try Leaping and Loping with Sonny Clark (I forget whether the "g"s there shoudl be apostrophes)--actually rather better than most of his work with Monk. He's terrific on Monk's Dream.

I missed this thread back in January which it first popped up. Congrats on the new poetry book! I thought I'd add that David Gitin's poem in Onsets is now available in his most recent chapbook, Passing Through. It's called "For John Tchicai".

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Yeah, the Rosen's maybe an acquired taste--but an interesting disc nonetheless--here's the writeup-- http://www.ndorward.com/music/rosen_trips.htm I haven't heard Jewels & Binoculars--I know a lot of people who like it a lot, but the concert I saw by the group was so dull I've been avoiding the CD, even though I normally like Moore a lot.

You must be pretty twisted!...... I suppose if you're looking for a stream-of-consciousness novel about a loser's pathetic efforts to kill his father then it is a pretty funny book.... I haven't read over the whole of this thread but if David Lodge's novels haven't yet been mentioned they should be.

Actually Pepper played clarinet on occasion throughout his career--there's a classic clarinet version of "Anthropology" on the +10 sessions with Paich. I should mention that some of his sideman work is great too--check out Mel Torme's Swings Shubert Alley for instance.

Basically, get the entire run of stuff for Contemporary in the 1950s/1960s, & Living Legend. & Larry Kart sez that the one from the 1950s called simply Art Pepper Quartet is a classic too though I've yet to pick it up. I've never liked the post-comeback Pepper nearly as much as the stuff up to 1960, but there are a lot of people who will passionately disagree.