Nate Dorward

"high on drugs" ???

Ah, hadn't known that the length might present a problem for some players! Yeah, the music develops in several different directions after the opening. Definitely less sedate after a while...! Nope, it's not Brötzmann & the Chicago guys. Just one horn, but yes, two percussionists. If you identify the very distinctive instrumentation it won't be too hard to figure out what band this is, I think.

OK, let's keep everything to the one thread, then.

Anyone who feels like downloading & listening to the music is more than welcome to discuss it...!

Not as far as I know. Have you tried the links to the downloads? Any problems?

Did folks want separate threads for this & the bonus disc, or keep discussion to one? The bonus disc, are you'll see, is only 3 tracks, but one is very long. * OK, I've uploaded the BFT to RapidShare: http://rapidshare.com/files/192528716/BFT_62_download.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/192552159/BFT_...nload_bonus.zip I figured I'd start this thread even if people are still downloading and digesting the music. There's no particular reason to jump in at once--sit back & think about the music first..... I don't have a lot of introductory comments. There's no common theme; as you'll hear, it's all over the map stylistically, from the avantgarde to a straight-down-the-line organ+sax date. Unlike previous threads I have included some older tracks, rather than simply showcasing new releases. Mostly fairly obscure stuff, but (unlike my previous BFTs, which deliberately excluded virtually all "name" players!) there are some tracks with familiar players which I included because these particular recordings are fairly scarce & I thought people would like a taste.

MANY thanks to Big Al who helped me to figure out how to get this ripped to MP3s & upload them. The main file is now uploaded: http://rapidshare.com/files/192528716/BFT_62_download.zip I'll get the bonus tracks uploaded later this afternoon. -- I used the default bitrate (192)--if this creates files that are too large tell me & I'll redo them with a lower bitrate.

Well, tried Fat City? It's a pretty great boxing film.

Well, take some of Bobby's, I'd think.......... He had two, I think, on the label.

In case people are wondering, I'm not very experienced with using ripping software &c, so haven't sorted things out yet after spending the last few hours at the computer.... (the details:) I was using two programs to handle the audio files--the copy of NTI CD/DVD Maker that came with my computer & the iTunes software I have installed. The former offers a "convert audio" option but it triggers a request that I pay up for the software (fair enough, but it's a clunky program & I'm not entirely sure I want to pay for it), and the latter is just puzzling: it's supposed to offer an option to convert WAV files to MP3 but I can't seem to get it to do it--the help file is not helpful as it refers me to a nonexistent tab option, for some reason. Agh! Anyway, if anyone has suggestions I'd be very grateful. What I have is the original CDs, of course, & also the WAV files I created while making the CDRs. But I take it that I need to convert them to MP3 or else they will be far too big. (Will MP4 do? that's the default for iTunes. Not sure of the compatibility with everyone's players.) Somehow I'll get this all sorted out over the weekend.......

Hey, great! So only stereojack's discs are as yet not accounted for..... OK, I'll get the download version up & running forthwith.

Wow, that's fast! I mailed them Monday......... The Magnificent Goldberg pm'd to say he got his too. OK, I'll put up the downloads shortly, then, since the CDRs seem to be arriving quickly.

& at his request I also mailed a physical copy to Durium. I'll post the downloads once the physical copies start to hit.

OK: I've made physical copies for: The Magnificent Goldberg Bill Barton mikeweil stereojack If anyone else wants one, then get me your address & I'll burn it for you. Otherwise, it'll be a download.

OK, have been struggling with my software but managed to create the BFT at last! CDRs go in the mail on Monday, the download will be available shortly thereafter. As always, a tricky problem, creating a single 80-minute compilation. I've fudged things this time with a partial bonus disc--not full length, but it contains one very long track on it.

Hey, thanks Bill--I look forward to reading the piece!

Thanks for the BFT, Durium! Plenty of new names to me there. Duplicating & mailout of BFT 62 commences tomorrow.... hope people find it as intriguing/informative!

Hope you still have your friend.... Actually (seriously) it's a pretty user-friendly inside/outside kind of disc. My wife even tolerates it when I have it on the stereo.......! A few other reviews have rolled in since the Ratliff--I especially liked Massimo Ricci's writeup for his site Touching Extremes (link).

I'll be there in spirit ......

Why? Try Godard's Contempt (score by Georges Delerue) for example. It sticks out like a sore thumb, & is meant to.

I think this is really two separate questions: (1) who are the musicians? and (2) if it's the same/similar lineup as the one on the Massey Hall concert then is it actually from the concert? FWIW, if the sound quality is "excellent" then I would guess that it's not from the Massey Hall concert, which is fairly poorly recorded (including the infamously inaudible bass that was later overdubbed). I don't have the Miller book to hand but my recollection is that the extant album of the concert is everything by the trio & the quintet that exists, though there are some obvious edits within the tracks. The missing material was by a Toronto band, not the stars, & I believe that Parker guested with them at the end of the night (a performance now lost?). Anyway, I can check with the book if you like.

Haven't combed through the thread closely to check if it's received a mention already, but thought I'd give a nod to the outstanding soundtrack for Oshima's Gohatto/Taboo by Ryuichi Sakamoto.

Unfortunately I gather there are some rights issues surrounding the musical "outtakes" from Kansas City, so the second film of just the performances has been withdrawn. Amazon still lists it for sale, though.

A last <<bump>>--I'll be putting CDRs in the mail next week....

Ah well, with those hints... Mengelberg (unusually straightahead playing for him, actually) & est, obviously. I saw Svensson a few years back (about 2000?, Toronto jazzfest), it was nice in an it's-okay-just-not-my-thing style of expertly calibrated jazz.