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Suicidal Hallucinatory Guy Who Jumps Off The Imperial Pure Cane Sugar Bag Into A Glass Of Water Billy Joe McAllister Alistair Cooke

I'm feeling you on that one, Neal! And so is the White Rat.

Sonny naming names...those aren't just names of historical figures to him. In a decent world, this man would be given first class (or better) accommodations worldwide just to allow him to talk to people in the flesh. Food, doctors, comfort, you got it, just let us experience you until it is no longer possible. Because when it's gone, it's gone.

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Had the same experience of basic decency from Giants fans during and after Game 5 of the 2010 WS, Giants fans as a group, very nice people, no arrogance or crudeness in the visitor's house, just honest enthusiasm, as they were well entitled to! You know what bugged me most about Toronto during this post-season? I didn't see them laughing too much. You look at the Royals (or Rangers) dugouts when things were going well, they were laughing. Jays were always all uber-serious gladiator all the time. Hey, baseball is serious, it's your job, but jesus, if playing baseball well and having success while so doing doesn't make you smile, that's kinda dark, eh? Granted, small sample size, and listened to some games on radio, but still, Ben Revere taking out his understandable angst on that trash can last night was really kind of scary, fine line between frustration and danger-rage, ok? Oh, Rangers had a chance, a good one, a damn good one. And did not get it. so...new cycle now. Did not know that about the Grays...did they also play at Griffith Stadium?

First all-expansion team World Series, they say. Royals & Pilots came in the AL. the same year, correct? And Pilots became Brewers, who now, of course are NL. But .45s/Astros & Mets came into the NL the same different year, and Houston, of course in AL now. Just wondering what all that might have to do with it taking, what, 53? years for this to happen, an all-expansion team world series.

Up. This thing intrigues me to no end.

Whoa, that was a game!

Rain? C'mon Nature, seriously?

As I remember them? As a whole? No. That's one helluva song. I'm not usually a lyrics matter guys, and this is no exception, but jesus, those changes and that melody...

Holy shit! Minnie Riperton & Charles Stepney reincarnating in disguise on ABC, live, with invisible Bachrach offstage! Did not see that one coming, glad I looked! (and yes, looked as well as listened, these are some pretty stealth "optics" going on here).

Pepsi and Shirlie Shirley Ellis Tony (Tony, bo-bo-ney, Bo-na-na fanna, fo-fo-ney, Fee fi mo-mo-ney)......Tony!

What you already know - just play your own music the way you know it needs to go, get it out there to the extent that you want/need to get it out there, and then go watch some TV or something. Anything past that is giving away more power than you need to give away these days. Just my opinion, of course, but having considered the options (i.e. - having already done the math)...you gonna be who you are, so look for the shortest distance between those two points.

I had one allegedly sent from Dusty Groove on 10/15, packed in with an LP, all sent Media Mail. So we'll see how that goes.

Ha, wow. I never thought of myself as a 'cat,' don't know about the rest of y'all. Having not posted anything for the past few weeks (and visiting only sporadically)--and then only learning about this thread via Do the Math--I feel like I just read a newspaper article about my apartment complex going up in flames. In terms of the Bee HIve stuff, I'm reminded of something I heard recently... paraphrasing, of course, but Herbie Hancock was saying that the classic Blue Note stuff presented a misleading picture of the music of that time period--that it was "perfect," when it was more ragged and exploratory on the bandstand. Something I love about the rise of independent record labels in the late 60's onward is that a lot more "wart-y" music seemed to get immortalized on wax. I'm sure a lot of this had to do with factors beyond my knowledge or awareness (in addition to obvious stuff like the rise of bass amplification, the prevalence of rock kits, the electric guitar, hazarding the post-Coltrane-era, etc.), but whatever the case may be, it's produced some of my favorite music. I spent the morning perusing the music discussed in this thread, and (incidentally) I've also been listening to a ton of Rahsaan and Strata-East-vintage pseudo-mainstream stuff. Dogma aside, stuff like Charles Davis's Ingia or the Charles Tolliver Slugs stuff just sounds so much closer to my experiences with tonal jazz in a pragmatic context than a lot of those (wonderful, immaculate) Blue Note dates. In a postmodern sense, that probably says more about my predilections and playing circles than it does about "the music," but I imagine there must be some sort of common reality to all this. All the talk about the Brignola album is right on--parts of "Donna Lee" are indeed fucked up and "wrong," but it's also feverishly exploratory and honest in a way that I think a lot of practicing musicians could probably identify with. I'm also reminded of that furor over this thing: Apparently JG loses the form for a little bit--exactly how and to what extent was in a ton of contention for a minute. IIRC, the two strains of thought were: (1) JG fucked up "All the Things You Are," which makes this a subpar document, and (2) who gives a shit? For my (very late to the party) part, this is a really roundabout way of trying to consider what these recordings are "as they are," rather than what they are not. I recognize the slippery critical slope of failing to evaluate music by quantifiable standards, and I think that our contemporary preoccupation with technical perfection has positives as well as negatives. At the same time--and in a muso-jerkoff-y sense--is there not some value in listening to 1978 Dave Holland (post-Braxton, still playing with Sam Rivers, early ECM) play with cats like Haynes and Brignola? Would this have been a "better" session with Sam Jones or Ron Carter or (even more chaotic, but definitely "in the idiom" and among that group of players) Richard Davis? After a while, it begins to feel a lot more like fantasy football than listening as an earnest endeavor, which is where I put my laptop on sleep and start running left hand exercises again. Dude, if you've not yet had the chance, check out The Hub Of Hubbard on MPS, there that Richard Davis guy is, and that is one of the gloriest-most damnded slopfests ever committed to record. And probably my favorite Hubbard record that was released in its time.

I like that Unloveables cut. Hollerado, not so much. My wife is allergic to cats. I love 'em and was originally somewhat consternated by that, but dogs have proven more than satisfactory in their absence. That Reece side is damn good imo. Weird recording is a fact of life for most all jazz from that time (and others), so...adjust, I guess?

Ok, totally lost, but that's ok.

Water Pik! I have used his product, both pre- and post-1967, indirectly subsidizing jazz in the process. Who knew!

Are they doing the NBC version or the CBS version? Either way, I'm a fan, but for different reasons. The game was a lot more straitlaced/sober in the 60s (NBC), but Jayne Mansfield was always on with her cleavage and her dog, so...and the sounds of the set's mechanics, of the older technology, that has stuck with me as well. But 70s CBS MG, that's its own universe right there, for real.

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No idea what that one means?

La-di-da-di-dee, la-di-da-di-dah.

For god only knows whatever reasons, perhaps my favorite moment comes early on, with Bob Wilber playing that solo in the lobby/living room, I like Bob Wilber more often than I probably should, and precisely for the reasons I probably shouldn't like him so much. But he is who he is, and, yeah, I like that about him, he's firmly who he is, he's thought about it, made his choices, and has owned them. Just wondering, how did the Gibsons make their money?

Yeah, well, yeah. But. learn more (a lot more) about Charles Davis (and for bonus points, Eddie Bert), consider more deeply the dynamic of friends making records together, don't do the December 8th thing, and let's all get on with things. Probate court still in session, probably indefinitely.

Wow: http://www.dothemath.typepad.com/ I think Larry, Mark Stryker, and a few others here know him and have his ear at times, so... Nothing personal, dude, any of it, just some basics. But thanks for noticing, and thanks for hearing.