JSngry

Robert Q. Lewis Robert McNamarra Rober Irvine

Yeah it seems like everybody will admit that it's there until specifics get pointed claimed and then, no, you can't claim THAT one, try again, etc. I think it's bullshit myself, I mean, what's the problem, we got no problems apparently with pointing out every OTHER influence in/to "jazz", but "African", even as a residual/subliminal/genetic memory/whatever seems to upset a lot of people for some reason other than just acknowledging it in a very general sense. It's like an abortion or something, let's...just not talk about it, we had it, now let's move on, please. Please. Me, I'm fine with it, makes perfect sense to me, fits in with what I see and hear, and have seen and heard. But I'm no musicologist, that's for sure, so what do I know.

Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al Saud عبد الله بن عبد العزيز آل سعود Abdullah I bin al-Hussein عبد الله الأول بن الحسين Abdullah Abdullah عبدالله عبدالله

I think it's been pretty well established in other conversations on this board that African-American musicians should not be allowed to claim African influences because everything that's pointed to as "African" gets rebutted as not being exclusively and/or specifically African. Or something like that. The people who make those rebuttals are smarter that me. Or, if not smarter, at least more certain. So hey, sorry guys, your music can't be African and it can't be fully American (or even African-American) without somebody getting their snoot in a snit about it. Must be a tough gig, that's all I can say.

Klaus Kinski Klaus Nomi Klaus Lemke

The Great Gildersleeve The Great Gatsby The Great Santini

Still.

Benny Goodman Benny Carter Benny Waters

Like I said, not for the creature of habit.

And perhaps most important of all - what "American" means now is not the same as what it meant then, nor, likely, what it will mean further on up the road. The whole Euro-Afro-Judaic-Christian collisions/collusions were but Chapter One. Chapters Two & Beyond ain't all about that no more, unless you're hung up on watching the director's cut of Chapter One. I love, genuinely love, America, but it ain't for the faint of heart, nor the creature of habit.

Sure, but that's not what Hancock was saying -- or so it seems to me...In any case, it sounds like Hancock might be talking about ownership from a "No, no, they can't take that away from me" point of view, which is understandable but not necessarily enlightening. Most importantly, we don't even know if Herbie even said it. Less importantly, it seems to me that if he did say it, we'd need to know exactly what he said, and what else, if anything, he said to go along with it, and in what context was the question even being asked, before it should seem to be anything real and not just a speculation. Least importantly, anybody who plays "jazz" with an "American thing" (and you may not be able to define it, but you know it when you hear it) as the underpinning will always be playing "American jazz with a fill-in-the-blanks accent", and those who don't play with an "American thing" as the underpinning should be neither surprised nor concerned when that music's being defined as "jazz" is a subject of some...discussion. "Gift to the world" and all that, but still..

How does one pick this odious thing up, anyway? I'd like to be on the lookout...

The Young The Restless The Rest Of Us

No such thing as speaking one language with a strong accent and/or perspective from another?

If I didn't know who they were and saw that photo, I'd still think it was a bunch of crazyass old men. And I do mean that as a compliment.

Gutsy, no room for error timing, masterful reading of the audience, not going let them not laugh, or to even have a chance not to.

Robin Evan Roberts Robin René Roberts Renee Roberts

I am sorry to hear this. She was a real trailblazer, imo.

I put in for Gerald Wilson, because Gerald Wilson will give you some lasting musical engagement.

Charles Hatchett Glenda Hatchett Desmond Hatchett

Mike Cuellar

Triple H Double Trouble Swingin' single

He's giving all of Texas the West Nile!!!!!!

Sis Carr Ralph Garr Jack Parr