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Not to diminish the scope or the seriousness of this loss, but isn't it a typically human conceit to think that everything will last forever, even though reality clearly & unambiguously shows otherwise?

Stumbled across this little piece o'party the other day: AMG/Yannow give it 1.5, saying that Which tells me that either A) He don't know how to listen/relate to a descarga date such as this one (the "listening" is at best only partially done with the ears and "mind", which I guess destroys the "purity" of the listening. Whatever...) B) For whatever reason, he ignored Clare Fischer's top-of-his-game Rhodes contributions here and/or C) Him & me just got very different opinions about this one. Oh well. Pay no attention to the man behind the reputation. If you like "this type thing" (i.e. - descargas, in this case with a bit of "cultural fusion" (Cat Anderson on a descarga date? Oh HELL yeah! Alongside the LEGANDARY El Negro!) and modernity (salsa in 5!) thrown in, hey - this puppy's a stone groove. Fuck this "pure listening experience" bullshit and take it for what it is - a pure party experience. And not a cheap party neither, no sir. We're talking one of those good parties that make you glad to be alive. This is the only Louie Bellson album I've ever gotten happy about. Ever. Well worth the search!

There was an old Milestone LP called Early Modern. Some non-Verve JATP stuff, early. The time there is...erratic, to put it kindly. But as you note, it's fine of plenty of other occasions.

Truthfully, I think they were a "jam band" before there were such things. Lots of "hippie" notions in the grooves (which I think are maybe too loose!), and definitely in the lyrics. Very much a product of the times, when it was the thing to do to just pass a bowl around and let everything be groovy. Which, I think, probably was not at all a fake vibe for those guys at that time. But it was only one part of them, and putting some of the other parts in the mix might have given the music more distinctiveness. Altogether, though, I'm glad I've finally gotten to hear their stuff, and will probably come back to it every so often, just a once-through and then put it back until the next time the whim strikes. This is the kind of music that, for me, is too..."interesting" (and not just musically, maybe more in other ways than musically, in fact) to be forgotten, yet not really striking enough to demand a proper reissue, much less to justify spending money on should one ever be offered. Unless it's for Harold Vick...

He was on lots of JATP sessions in the 40s; as for his other sideman appearances, somebody who can do a name search on arecent searchable version fo teh Bruynincks or Lord discographies will probably yield a lot. IIRC the complaints about his playing style at those JATP sessions that I mentioned above were related to his timekeeping that relied on the drum instead of the cymbals (something that wasn't nearly as evident on other sessions with him that I've heard). To some it must have appeared a bit old-fashioned by the second half of the 40s (I prefer the Jo Jones/Kenny Clarke schools too, but if people can dig the on-the-beat clobbering of Gene Krupa then Lee Young definitely had a lighter and more sympathetic touch than THAT. ). Not just his style is...uh..."debatable", but sometimes his time makes those Dali melting watches seem like the atomic clock by comparison. I've also read things implying that he had an inflated sense of of both drumming ability & self-importance. One quote (I forget who) refered to him as "a joke". But then again... His playing onthe Nat sides is always cool, and he was Nat's road drummer for many, many years. That wouldn't have happened if he really sucked. Plus, his ongoing work on the business side of the business ( http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&a...knfrxqedldde~T1 ) must be noted, and, probably, respected overall. So who knows? Maybe he went through a rough spell, or spells, and came out of it/them ok.

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All the moreso!

"I Wish I Never Saw The Sunshine" by The Ronettes, with Hal Blaine as Phil's exploding head.

Yeah, Monument was a Nashville label. Artists on the label who immediately come to mind are Boots Randolph, Ray Stevens, & Tony Joe White. Early(?), pre-Columbia Kristofferson on Monument sounds logical to me.

Personnel (besides Horn, of whom I am no particular fan) looks quite promising: Egberto Gismonti - Guitar (Acoustic), Flute, Guitar, Bambuzal, Piano Dom Um Romão - Percussion Dom Salvador - Piano (Electric) Roberto Silva - Percussion, Drums Ron Carter - Bass So, do they lift Horn up to their level or do they come down to his? As always, thanks in advance!

Yeah, this is getting a bit...uncomfortable...

Well now...

I wanna hear Caravan with a drum solo!

Dreams, yes. Compost, not.

Finally getting to hear the two Compost albums... a bit unfocused in spots, delightfully eclectic in others, and Harold Vick sounds freakin' great in the band no matter what. Plus, the version here of "Bwaata" puts Joe's version on Multiple into a new perspective, I think.

Because it's like suicide, only you don't have to die.

"Wilson" begins with "W", so if you file vertically, it's gonna be a pain in the ass to get to.

Ordered. Didn't want to miss this one!

As would I. I was only making the point that when we think about "Prez-influenced" tenors, we reflexively think first of those who went with the tone, and there's more to it than that in terms of the man's influence. Really, if you listen past the tone and the more personalized moments of space-definition, Prez & Herschel sounded a lot more alike than unlike, which puts into play the whole "regional language" thing and whether maybe they were both (and really, not just the two of them...) speaking the same language with their own accents, which in turn opens up a whole 'nother area of looking at/pondering/speculating/jerking off about who then got influenced by what, and for what reasons.

You only interested in those who followed the "light" side of Prez? Because you got Jacquet, very earliest Dexter, lots of other people who followed the vocabulary and the nuances/inf;lections, jsut not the tone. Maybe they "got it" more than those who went the other way? Or maybe not? You gotta think about that...

Just now or yesterday?

I can see a day coming when you'll be able to get a file that is every piece of music ever made. But before that, how about a day when you can "shape-shift" a file from one piece to another just by rearranging the 1s & 0s? "No, Officer (click), I don't have an illegally downloaded copy of the new Madonna album (click) on my hard drive, I have a perfectly legal copy of Kind Of Blue (click). See? Hear?" Tell you what - to think that such a day could never come is a whole lot more naive than thinking that it could.