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I don't think Protonix in general has a history of nasty side effects with the majority of users, does it? No idea, I just know that I see commercials all the time that talk about possible side effects including rectal bleeding, increased forehead size, growth of additional limbs, all kinds of freaky shit like that like it's nothing to be concerned about, and all I keep thinking is that there was a time when we used to threaten people with shit like that, not encourage them to risk it.... For real, though, I know these medicines are usually safe in the majority of cases and that these warnings are a legal CYOA as much as anything else, but still...one of the legacies of the Regan revolution I'd like to see tightened up on just a little is the loosening of the FDA approval process. Not unreasonably so mind you, but I think there's room for the pendulum to beneficially "swing back" a little bit in this area.

Is it correct to imply that the non-deletion of this thread implies an acceptance/tolerance for publicizing blogs that focus only/primarily on presumed rare/OOP material? Because if it is, then there's a few more that deserve mention...

That "official" Monk portfolio that's out (Hal Leonard?) is about the best I've seen for any Monk tune.

Sadly reported on Will Lee's site that Hiram Bullock passed away as well. http://www.willlee.com/home.php His blog sounds like may have been cancer (?) http://www.hirambullock.com/blog.html

Does anyone know if this available on cd?

I just take prescription-strength Prevacid as needed and all is well. Do you have a case that's too severe for Prevacid? I agree that they've been letting things go to market with caveats that 30-40 years ago would have been enough to require further refinement. That ain't right.

Yeah, that's what he says now... He's on record (back a few decades) as saying that when he first got the changes (a few days before the recording), he thought it was a ballad, and ran through them as such. Then, when the session came and he found out the intended tempo, he was kinda like,"O.....k.....". Hell, listen to him on all the takes, he pretty much just plays block chords, and as lightly as possible. No dis, I mean, those are some tough-ass changes to get hit with cold, especially back in that day when the whole notion of key centers regularly moving in thirds was far from even semi-common. I stay away from them because I'm an intrinsically lazy mofo, and I've loooked long and hard at the possible cost/benefit analysis, and all I can see the end result of learning how to be fluent in Giant Steps changes being is being fluent in Giant Steps changes, if you know what I mean. Now, sure, for Trane, that opened up a lot of possibilities for him to incorporate into his upcoming "modal" explorations, but that's Trane, dig? Trane had his mission, I had mine (and I say had because, really, I don't know if I can even consider myself a player anymore, or if I at some point will again...) But as it relates to Monk, well, I at least understand the math, and have played those changes before, more than once, and have a rudimentary....visceral appreciation of what the game is. So I don't think it's necessarily recommended to totally ignore playing either Monk or Giant Steps on the "too personal" grounds. I think you need to go ahead and stick your whatever in there, just because, and then decide how much further you want/need to go. I got a friend who trained for the preisthood with the Jesuits. He dropped out after a while, but he swears that part of the deal is that before you take the oath of celibacy that, if you're a virgin, they - the Jesuits - will hook you up with a woman (a hooker, I guess, either that or a real friendly parishioner...) so you can fully understand just what it is you're forswearing. I hope we can avoid all the cheap priest jokes here, because that's not the point. The point is that before you make the decision to avoid anything "on principle", you best understand what it is you're going to be avoiding.

I'm sure that works for you, seriously, (I understand the "too personal" aspect, I'm like that with "Giant Steps") but I don't know that I'd advocate that for everybody...I mean, there is much to be learned there (as there is with "Giant Steps"), and an "intellectual" understanding is only part of it (as it is with "Giant Steps"). Gezz, I'm on the verge of talking myself into getting into that whol "Giant Steps" elevator shaft, I'd best quit now.

Nah, that would take away the fun of fixing it!

Didn't they list their source as a Wes Montgomery version that had a Claus Ogerman arrangement?

Well, the problem there, though, is that you run the risk of getting "over-analytical", which is also not the "purpose" of Monk's music. A person who views Steve Lacy as a superior interpreter of Monk over Sonny Rollins is not getting the point any better than one who looks at it the other way around, I think. I haven't played much lately, but when I did, and I would be in a Monk-friendly setting (very rarely, according to what I was looking for), it always worked best when I was able to shut off all other vocabularies but the Monk one, and, conversely, open up everything else full blast. That only really happened just a handful of time, truthfully, but it only takes one time to hook you and make you feel like that's the way to get there, if you know what I mean...

Music is music just like people is people. And that works any way you wanna make it work, or not work. So ultimately, the truth does make you free, only when you're free. you realize that you don't really know too much of anything, so humility in the face of the unknown becomes not just a good behavioral display, but a necessary metaphysical survival skill. Besides, I personally find it a helluva lot more fun to be delighted than to be disgusted. When there's a choice, that is.

You know, just "playing changes" instead of dealing with the internal rhythms of the melodies, the continuities of the melodic/harmonic inter-relations of the whole form, all that shit. You can do it with any piece of music, really, but Monk sorta made that the object of his music, I think, that positing of a highly specific whole within which there are infinite possibilities based off of the ever-changing same.

Actually, when it comes to Monk tunes, it's the opposite, because HE changed his own tunes. "Criss Cross" is a great example, in that he hacked 2 bars out of it between the Blue Note and Columbia recordings. Composer's prerogative. And of course, any player has the liberty to do with a tune what they will. But if you ask me who's changes/forms/whatever are "correct, Monk's or anybody else's, for me, it's Monk. I kinda differ with you on that one vis-a-vis Monk. Monk didn't write show tunes, he wrote highly specific compositions. And if he changed the specifics of a few of them over the years, they still remained specific and they still remained compositions, not show tunes or pop songs. One of my biggest musical irritants over the years has been players who play Monk tunes like they are just "songs". I mean, yeah, you can do that, but it's really pretty cheap, I think. It shows a fundamental failure to grasp what Monk was doing. Now, if somebody wants to proceed from there like that, hey, that's their prerogative as well, and lord knows even the wrongest roads can lead to some cool places. But I'm of the school that believes that no matter where you go, there you are, and if you're "wrong" from jump, then no matter where you end up, you still got that bit of wrong with you. Maybe that matters, maybe not. Maybe ignorance is bliss. But if you ain't ignorant, just wrong, ain't a whole lot of bliss there, at least not for me.

When it comes to Monk tunes, I assume the composer's changes as the correct ones, period, no questions asked. This is still not a "universal" practice by any means, but it is becoming more of one. Having said that, though, the Miles bridge is still more commonly played in these parts than is the Monk, unlike Miles' "cheating" bridge to "Well, You Needn't".

...I'm here because I did something wrong on my planet. I'm not really from this planet. I did something wrong on my planet and they sent me here to pay my dues. I figure pretty soon my dues should be paid, and they're going to call me home so I can rest in piece. - Johnny Griffin to Art Taylor in Notes and Tones Johnny Griffin was walking, breathing, living proof that no matter how much ugly, nasty, supremely fucked up bullshit there is in this life, that there was always that much more beauty and joy to be had if you could/would just let yourself believe and go ahead on, take the leap of faith, and simply go there. I'm always talking about using my horn like a machine gun, but not to kill anybody. I want to shoot them with notes of love. I want them to laugh. I want to give them something positive. - Ibid Johnny Griffin's was the energy of the truth, and you can not kill the truth. I absolutely refuse to believe that as indomitable a spirit as Johnny Griffin's has "died", has been extinguished. To do so violates everything in which I believe, much less the basic law of the universe that energy can be neither created nor destroyed. What I will believe, and sadly but ultimately acceptingly, is that the cat finally got called back home for another gig and had no choice but to take it. That, I can and will believe. Anything/everything else is a lie.

I'm sorry Chuck, did you say something? Marilyn Monroe's breasts keep getting in the way.

That dude has been my friend for many, many years. At first it was because it was all I could afford. Then it was because that was where most of the good stuff was. Now, it's because...just because.

Agreed on all counts. The dude in a funky t-shirt still makes his 8 dollars though. Always!

I hesitate to explicitly and/or over-enthusiastically endorse such sites, since they are offering copyrighted material. As such, endorsing them is a violation of the letter of this board's policy. However, it would be hypocritical of me to state that I have not encountered some items on such sites that in all likelihood I would never encounter elsewhere, save for some stroke of mad collector's luck and/or Japan, especially now that it seems like the traditional "record business" is waving goodbye to itself. I can only say that if one chooses to explore such sites, one should be mindful of the moral obligation one has to continue to purchase music through legitimate channels, especially if one uses these blogs as a digital-era "listening booth". I have recently "explored" the catalog of The Singers Unlimited, heard much I did not like, enough that I did, and just last week purchased an import 2-CD set of their complete A Capella sessions, a set which I am enjoying immensely, all the more so for having actually purchased it for no real practical reason other than to "make right" the use of that aforementioned digital listening booth. One could argue that such sites are merely functioning as true determiners of market worth. It may very well be that there is no way in hell that I would pay full price for a new copy of, say, Joe Sample's Carmel, or even $7-$9 for a used one, but that an MP3 copy in less than "audiophile quality" sound is something that I will not turn down, because that's really all it's worth to me at this point in time, and/or that that translates to about $3-$4 for a used copy being a price I would now pay after having "refreshed" my memory of that album. One could also make the argument that such easy access ultimately devalues all commercially released music, and that that in turn is a big contributing factor to the ongoing implosion of the current music business paradigm. Truthfully, I think you can make both arguments, but if you make one to disprove the other, then you are ignoring the reality, which, as usual, consists of big parts of both existing simultaneously. Here's a thought, though, I was in a local Half-Price not too long ago and saw what appeared to be more or less the Miles Prestige box on an MP3 data disc (1 or 2 discs, I don't recall) for $5.95. No packaging, no annotation, just the disc(s). I think this was some EU PD product, but no matter - it might well be that the days of any disc of recorded music being worth $10-$20 to the mass market are over, or rapidly drawing to a close. I'm too close to the old ways to objectively decide if this is a "good" thing or a "bad" thing, but one thing I feel confident in saying is that it is a thing, and it ain't gonna stop any time soon, definitely not in my lifetime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtIb8aiXw7Y I think this pretty much sums up the concept, right?

Gee, who knew? I find it most unusual that this is the only site out there offering rips of rare and/or OOP albums. You'd think that there would be some more. On a completely unrelated note, I've been listening to Bitches' Brew lately, and now more than ever I appreciate that "Pharaoh's Dance" is one helluva tune. There's never enough Rhodes, it really is my favorite sound, it gets me to singin' & swingin'. I could go on, but let's stay on topic here.

Yeah, but Ernie Freeman ca. 1965, a la Sinatra & Dean Martin's pop hits on Reprise...not sure I wanna got there with anybody, if you know what I mean, at least not any more than I already have...

Arranged by Ernie Freeman. 'nuff said, probably.

The sweetheart and I have had the same conversation. I told her to call you first and foremost for first pickins. Oh shit...dude, I'm gonna have to have something go either terribly wrong or terribly right to afford all those pickins....