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Neither Benson nor Jarreau are without some pretty formidable skills...

Dude, is there anybody you can't say that about?

The cover photo is from 1947, and was done by Toni Frissell, who called it "Midsummer Night's Dream": http://www.artnet.de/Artists/LotDetailPage...F8B917E22559FDC Somewhere on the Web there is (used to be?) a collection of other shots from this same shoot. All are intereesting, but this one was the real grabber, imo.

OK. I get it. Hmmm. Definitely not a "unanimous choice", not by any means, but it's long been a favorite of mine, especially "People Make The World Go Round". Yeah, it's CTI, and yeah, it's slicker than hell, and yeah, Ron Carter's all over the bottom of it like Sherwin-Williams in reverse, but when it's all over, it's got a vibe (no pun intended) all it's own, even a bit of CTI Mojo, and the slink factor is stealthy but very real. At least it is for me.

WOW ...i never heard of this show , was it a nationally broadcast show or regional (nyc?) Syndicated.

Some subtle, all-ACOUSTIC grease:

Ok, I've been wondering about this for quite a while, so I finally sat down & counted/charted bars & chord changes. The two A-sections are consistent at 14 bars (8+6) and follow the same progression (at the same rate) each time through. The bridge is 10 bars (it's on track to be 8 until bar 7, when he opens up the phrasing & makes what would usually be a 2 bar phrase into a 4 bar phrase. That sort of expansion fits right in w/what had been going on in the A-sections. The final C-section, is in two halves. the first is 8 bars, and it's in the second where things get a little slippery. Sounds like Marvin suddenly decides to add a few beats before getting into the "and the home..." line (not a goof, but a spontaneous "feel" thing). That causes this section to resolve on the 7th bar instead of the 6th, which would have been in keeping with the length of the two A-sections, 8+6. So yeah, Marvins' phrases are variable (but then again, Marvin was a phreaking master of phrasing - I've put together a CD of all the officially released versions of the Bobby Scott material, and the differences are RADICAL from take to take, year to year), but there's a symmetry & consistency to the accompaniment that leads me to believe that the arrangement was fixed in advance - and that there was a live keyboardist on hand to cover that extra bar towards the end. It's an amazing performance, & I've known a few people over the years who tear up at just the mention of it. But that's the kind of guy Marvin was. He could do that to you.

Marvin Gaye was one of the best singers of the 20th century. Period. The world is a poorer place without him.

A good goat'll do that for ya'.

Allen - check your email.

Well, ok, it's still a vanity name, but not from the oil company... http://www.cityofhumble.com/history.html

Seems as if he is headed in the Michael Jackson "look at me I'm a clown" direction. I think the Mick Jagger "look at me I'm still rockin' " direction is more a apt of a clown comparison. Prince, as "eccentric" as he is never has been as ungrounded and maladjusted as Jackson. As long as he keeps making interesting records (which is no means a guarantee - Musicology was a bitch, the followup a yawner), he can do whatever he wants/needs to do live. Different animals (on both sides of the peerformer/audience equation) altogether. Besides, does anybody think that Tina Turner is too old to still be doing her schtick?

Oh, don't worry, it's not THAT type of humble. It's this type: Humble was part of the Esso/Enco/Etc group that merged into Exxon. Maybe before your time?

Humble is down around Houston, fwiw.

Yeah, you're right. It was before Bach's time. I'm more than a little rusty on my Music History Memories. and dude, Michelle in The Last Movie is enticing, but Michelle in American Dreamer is DEADLY!

Yes, of course we can. Just not when interpreting Ornette's words.

It's a classic, but I still prefer Dippin', and by plenty.

Well, there's always Money In The Pocket

And I have no problem with any of that, coming from non-musicians. But musicians, even the ones who "stand pat" for whatever reason, should be able to recognize the validity and integrity of musics that they themselves do not necessarily particiapte in. I have a very difficult time with those who can't/don't/won't do that, because if you can't recognize that type of thing as a matter of general principal, then what kind of specific choices are you making for yourself? That was my point. No ill-will towards non-musicians simply liking what they like intended.

No, of course not, but the whole notion of "dated" this close after the fact is one I find, uh...peculiar at best. Depends on whose ears its being heard through, and when. Plenty of times when "dated" sounds come back recontextualized (on widely varrying levels) to become "in" again. Hell, the whole Bitches Brew "sound", long thought to be "dated", is making a comeback, sometimes as mere replication, sometimes as a starting point. Not for me to posit on the "wisdom" of that one way or the other, just to point out that I'd use a lot of words to describe something before I'd use "dated". Stuff keeps coming back around, and I'm hearing echoes of Miles' 80s work in today's "Neo-Soul" movement (along with lots of other "dated" sounds), and that's supposedly an "underground" sound of "today". Remember in the 70s when James Brown was considered "dated"? Who's saying that now? So the whole notion of what does and doesn't sound "dated" is one which I shy away from. Now, "outmoded", that's a term I can sink my teeth into. That goes more to function than to actual sound. But sound itself, how do you put a "date" on it? Once it's been created, it's going to circle around indefinitely and will most likely land at any number of different stops in the process.

Maybe NASA's been doing mind-control experiments on astronauts in outer space.

Well, ya' know, some people's choices make other people uncomfortable because daring to dream, much less acting on the dream, scares the shit out of them...

Could you adjust your signature photo so we can see her ass? Her face is pretty enough, but her ass is more prettier.

In 100 years (definitely 500 years), it's all going to sound dated...