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Who's this Rumi cat?

Fair enough, but have you actually been to Texas and explored our barbeque at any length? There's literally infinite variations in the sauces, some quite spicy, and some more sweet (and I don't like the sweet stuff either). The best sauces are neither sweet nor spicy. They achieve a blend where individual elements become indistinguishable and all that remains is THE SAUCE, a flavor unto itself, and one that should enhance the meat, not dominate it. I ask if you've ever experienced actual Texas BBQ because about 20 years ago, I was in Buffalo, NY, on the road w/a band, and was delighted to find a "Mexican Restaurant" in town (this was 20+ years ago, remember, and the Tex-Mex boom was still a ways off). It had been at least 6 weeks since my last dose of the stuff, and I was JONESIN', so I went in and ordered a, uh, "rather large" amount of food. First up, a nice, big bean and cheese burrito. The first bite was the last - the naive Buffaloians had used SWISS CHEESE on this burrito. I checked the enchiladas - same thing. I went away sad, angry, and above all, HUNGRY. Well, that's just WRONG, but if that had been my sole exposure to Mexican food, I'd probably think "not for me. thanks anyway".

Oh, I know it. Thing is, I knew it before Game 5 too... :D Seriously, I gotta give props to my boys - with absolutely NO significant, or even SEMI-significant, presence in the middle and minimal defensive skills, they put together a regular season that was successful by any standard. Their playoff run has been a result of a combination of opponents' injuries (if it takes you 7 games to beat the Kings WITHOUT Chris Webber...), strategic cunning (Don Nelson should be a SERIOUS candidate for Coach Of The Year, imo), and good old-fashioned guts (what happened Tuesday night is the gutsiest sporting performance I've seen since Emmit Smith played that title game against the Giants with a seperated shoulder), and, yes, shooters who can, in streaks, score quicker and more frequently than Russell Crowe in a roomfull of Meg Ryan clones. But hey - love means never having to say "you're dead". If you got kids, you know the feeling - they're going nto a situation, athletic or otherwise, where you KNOW they don't stand a snowball's chance in hell, but by God, you stand by'em anyway, build'em up, let them know you love'em, and try to inspire to do their best. When they fail, you're still proud as hell of them, and every so often, once every VERY seldom, they actually win. If Game 5 was that "once every VERY seldom" for this season, and realistically, it's 99.99999999999% certain that it was (the Lakers paid the price of the Spurs' self-revulsion at letting things slip away, and I expect they're significantly more pissed about what happened Tuesday night), then so be it. But let's play the game first - concession before actually being defeated is MOST unbecoming, no?

Oh geez...sounds like I got some catching up to do...gimme today and tomorrow, ok? Really, I hope nobody's offended or otherwise put off (although if you are, I understand). It's just that it's a LOT quicker and easier to do "hit and run" posting to a community than it is to actually communicate with REAL PEOPLE individually! But I SHALL seek, retrieve, and respond. You have my word!

A copy of Debut DLP-2 would answer that question, but where the hell you gonna find one of THOSE?

Hurt By Stool Tossed From School is a great band, and Passer is a great album. I do not unserstand the AP's cryptic review posted here. Must be some of that "post modern irony" at work.

Gotta go for the Spurs. As well-rounded and STRONG of a team as there is in the NBA right now. (HOWEVER: as likely as it is that the Mavs are finished, there is no ABSOLUTE certainty in this matter. This is apparently a team that REFUSES to go peacefully into the night, and I think that having Dirk out actually makes them a better team defensively. Let the shooters get into that Peter Pan, "look at me, I can FLY" zone they get into early enough and long enough tonight, let Walt Williams provide something actually resembling a presence on the boards, and let Nellie keep coming up with ways to allow his team to do everything they have no right to do, AND let the Spurs get rattled - a HUGE "and", and don't think I don't know it - then the WC series might go 7 games, and if THAT happens all bets are off, home court advantage be damned. I know it's a really, REALLY, REALLY long shot, but hey, I'm proud of my team for doing what they've done so far - very much a "work in progress" of a team - and as a matter of principle, I refuse to deny the possibility of that ultra-long shot coming to pass as long as Nick Van Exel is alive and playing!)

FWIW, when I first joined at AAJ, I emailed the main cat over there asking if posting info and having discussions about Quartet Out would be a violation of their anti-spam policy if I was also an active participant in the general board community. I told hi I would respect his decision either way. I just wanted to remove any ambiguity so as not to "make trouble" by assuming anything. I never got a response from him. Rightly or wrongly, I was left with the impression that AAJ wanted "business" (which is certainly ANY commercial site's goal, and SHOULD be), and didn't want to commit either way for fear of violating their own policy and/or alienating a potentially active poster. You know, having your cake and eating it too, as they say. I understood (and still do), but that board has ever since had a feel of "discussion as a business tool" that deeply runs counter to my personal code about this music and whatever place I have in it as player and/or fan. Right or wrong, that's just me. These days, Organissimo is about the only place I either post or read. My time for doing such is significantly less now than it used to be, and since this place has always been my "sentimental favorite" as a ".org", MUSICIAN-RUN site since Day One, the choice has been easy. On rare days when the free time is greater than usual, I'll check out AAJ & JazzCorner, maybe post a bit here and there. Jazz Corner, an absolutely marvellous community, seems to require pretty active posting in order to REALLY "fit in", and I just don't have the time for actively participating in both boards (wish I did, though). AAJ offers a "one stop jazz experience", what with their articles, reviews, etc, in addition to their board, but I dunno... What was the question again?

Two foods for thought from Miles, as related by Dave Liebman, ca. 1979: If you have one new, REALLY new idea, per month, you're doing good. Anything more than that and you're doing REALLY good. Don't blame the tune if you get hung for ideas. You're playing it, it's not playing you. Really, the older I get, the less concerned I am with overt "creativity" as I am just being "in the moment", relaxing, and letting whatever is inside come out with as few hinderances as possible. Some days are better than others... The whole issue of "creativity" is one that I'm evolving on myself. After a while, one's personal language begins to stabilize somewhat, and what do you do then? Just stagnate and become a repeater pencil or constantly throw out what you've accrued in hopes of always being "new"? The former might as well be a death sentence, and the latter seems a denial of the validity of however far you've come (and if THAT sucked so bad that you had to throw it out, why is "this time" going to prove any better?). Myself, I think that after a while, refinement should naturally take precedence over constant "discovery". Funny thing is, refinement can open up a whole new set of options, notably deciding what to leave OUT rather than what to put in, to say nothing of getting in touch with one's personal rhytmic sensibility (I can't tell you how SICK I am of hearing these players who are so obsessed with harmony that they play everything in a rhythmic monotone!). Growing harmoically is always an option too. So long as one is expanding (and in a really cool paradox, refinement IS a form of expansion, at least in my mind) in some form or fashion, the adventure should remain alive. When it goes away, something's wrong, and the solution, as Miles implied, has to come from within. Like Warne Marsh said, "You have to take responsibility for your own melody". Not that it's ever as cut-and-dried as a post like this might make it seem. Really, though, the object of the game, I think, is to be real, to be YOU as fully as possible. Sometimes consciously working at that gets good results, but sometimes it's lethal. There are no sure things, and trial-and-error only helps the odds. It never beats them. There's different kinds of growth, and what works for one might be horribly ill-suited for another. One thing's for sure though - there's always more to do in some form or fashion. discovering what the next "something" is going to be is one of the most satisfying experiences life has to offer, even if pursuing it (or figuring out what it is) can sometimes suck the life out of you. Hey - ain't no such thing as a free lunch! :D

Dude, check it out - that "unedited" intro is HIGHLY edited - the first 2 A Sections are dupes of the third (with the last phrase being duped in from ?) - listen for the applause, Powell's chords, and the "unnatural" decay of Max's cymbal crash. Still, the bridge IS totally new to me, so my guess would be that for some reason the first 14 bars were unusable and "they" patched one together from the 3rd A Section and the lst two bars of the 2nd. Just a guess based on a quick listen, but it seems ABOUT right. Thanks indeed - that "lost" bridge is hipper than shit!

I agree! I'd delete it, but it's just TOO bizarre...

Dude, it's unbreakable. I think I just stumbled into a worm hole there for a second.

Just a layman's guess, but I'm thinking that the size of the post was so large that it "swallowed" the remainder of the page in order for it to "survive. I know that when I tried to quote THAT post, I got an error message about too much information or something, and I couldn't get back to the site until I closed out and relinked. Damn, is there anything I CAN'T break?

The accident cannot be duplicated! I think this goes beyond science into the realm of the miraculous. Somebody call the Enquirer.

DUDE! Somehow I captured the BOTTOM OF THE PAGE inside that post. Funny thing is, the buttons and links all work. A cosmic accident to be sure... Is this how Newton discovered gravity, or how Peter Parker discovered Spiderman?

Did Debut ever release the NON-overdubbed version for public consumption, even briefly, before issuing the overdubbed version? Was this first released as two 10" LPs? Seems like it was, but that was before my time and I'm wondering if that's a false impression I got. That's wild about the missing beginning of "Perdido". I just assumed that the tape got turned on a bit late and they faded in at the earliest opportune moment. Never dreamed that 3/4 of the opening chorus was there to be had.

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I see they've found a way to automate Dianne Warren...

Well, I daresay that not having any Louis, or just some sort of sampler, in a collection is probably more common these days than might be thought, and this is as good a place to start as any, since it's marvellously "hi-fi" AND totally kickass musically (but you're going to HAVE to get the Hot Fives & Sevens eventually. You just are!). Yeah - the CD bonus material is fascinating, notably the cuts where you get to hear Louis the bandleader in action, rehearsing some things and structuring the routines for recording purposes . So much for the myth of the "naive genius" - this guy knew EXACTLY what he wanted and how to get it. And, again, GREAT liner notes. And yeah, the alligator story is almost worth the cost of admission alone!

Red was kind enough to ask me to select the next album of the week, and my response was, "I'm sure I can think of SOMETHING" Well, I could, and I did. Many things. In fact, TOO many things. I wanted to dip into something that I felt "essential" in some form or fashion, yet something that was not overly familiar, something that might stimulate some people to check out something a little different than their usual bag(s), something, like BLACK MARKET, that stepped outside the "usual" music discussed in this great forum. Which way to go? Warne Marsh? Albert Ayler? Anthony Braxton? Lester Young? A vocalist? Brian Wilson? Gospel? Blues? Maybe even a COMEDY record? Who? What? When? Where? WHY? ????????????????????????????? Finally, I decided to go where any good jazzman goes when he/she needs a simple yet profoundly true answer - Louis Armstrong. Therefore, my selection for Album Of The Week for June 1 - 7 is LOUIS ARMSTRONG PLAYS W.C. HANDY (click here to buy) Simply put, this is, in my mind, one of the greatest jazz records ever, as well as one of the better reissues. If you only have the earlier CD, the ill-fated one with the "drum major" cover, treat yourself to the later issue. It's true to the original LP, has a wealth of priceless new material, sounds freakin' GREAT, and the liner notes tell a story (or two!) that you'd not believe if you heard it from anybody else. As good a major-label single disc package as there is, in my opinion, in terms of presentation. As for the music itself... If you don't have this album at all, get it A.S.A.P. and B.A.M.N.. Trust me, it IS that good. If your impression of Louis Armstrong is still that of an sweaty old man with a handkerchief singing "Hello Dolly" and/or an aging manchild who "naively" sang "What A Wonderful World" at the height of the Vietnam conflict, or even as a once bold firebrand who somewhere in the 1930s settled into a comfortable, nice-but-not-too-involved routine, YOU NEED TO HEAR THIS ALBUM! Hell, EVERYBODY needs to hear this album! Great band too. Maybe not the dazzling array of "name brands" of the Hines/Teagarden/Cattlett/etc. years, but whoopdee-damn-doo about that. Dig THESE players - funky-ass Barney Bigard on clarinet, the consistently invigorating Trummy Young on (do I have to tell 'ya? ), Billy Kyle on piano (Young & Kyle were both pivotal "swing-to-bop" musicians, something largely forgotten today but worth remembering if you listen to this album and find it "traditional" but still vaguely "modern" at the same time), the recently deceased Arvell Shaw on bass (and playing with a great big, old school, FULL sound that is marvelously captured), the irrepressible Barrett Deems on drums, and the warmly warm, nothing if not down home Velma Middleton on sometimes vocal. Nobody's slacking, everybody's in the peakest of their peak form, and if "St. Louis Blues" doesn't rock your world like getting hit in the face by a steel beam swinging into your face from across the street (only in a GOOD way. of course...), then I just don't know what to say. Hope y'all dig it!

Much props to my homie Hank, and no dis intended, but it's CHARCOAL all the way for me. Did a brisket, burgers and dogs yesterday as a matter of fact, and will probably do some ribs the next week or two. Just curious - do other parts of the country have a cut of ribs called "country style"? These babies have next to no bone, and are essentially rib STEAKS, that's how big amd meaty they are. Tender too! My kids have gotten spoiled now and won't eat anything else, which is fine with me, because they're a lot cheaper than babyback or other "rack"-style ribs.

Sorry, I misread the date and thought that it was AOW when I posted. My bad... And hey - what I say is just what I think/feel. There are no "rights" or "wrongs" or whatnots when it comes to your feelings about music. Nobody, NOBODY, can "say it all", and if you feel it and say it, it's as meaningful as anything anybody else says! If any of my posts get somebody to think a bit harder than they might have elsewise, to dig a little deeper into themselves and maybe get a better grip on things they might have had inside all along, then good! But if my posts "intimidate" (PLEASE note the quotes) or otherwise discourage discussion, then that's a BAD thing, and definitely something I don't want to be responsible for in ANY degree. Besides, when it comes to music the magnitude of that Massey Hall album, there are NO words that can adequately describe it - we're ALL gonna come up short! :D

Have you considered podiatral amputation? A bit extreme perhaps, but hey - problem solved!