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Glad you posted this, never heard of this record, ordered it immediately along with two others form the same Trio/Ultra Vybe seires, VERY reasonably priced. Exceptionally well-priced! Now, just hope they're all three in stock when it comes time to fill/ship. Dave Burrell...it took a while for him to really grow on me, he was not immediately apparent for me. But I got to where he was, and it was worth every step it took to get there.

HA! But those were the REALLY good ones! Think I just figured out why the Saturn LP A-Side running order switched from that in the liner notes, and it's pretty obivious - gongs. With "Enlightenment" leading off side-A, there's a single gong to begin the record, and with "Ancient Aethiopia" ending side-B, there's many gongs to end it. So, that's that, possibly, maybe. I like "Blues At Midnight" being the midpoint of the record, too. Like, almost literally mid-night (because this is all a dark journey, right, for the People Of The Sun). Like, you go on a journey in search of "Enlightenment" (and has anybody noticed how that piano intro mirrors "Echoes Of Harlem"?), ends up in " "Ancient Aethiopia", like starting in the present and ending up in the ancient/future (sound familiar?), one gong in the beginning, many gongs at the end, we've made it (on this record, anyway) and smack dab in the middle (because midnight is noon, right?) there's this longass (almost) jam session that either dies or lives to keep going. What happens is obvious, it keeps going - to the other side! It's easy to overthink this, and god knows, I love doing it. But for somebody like Sun Ra, who had ALL kinds of layers to his meaning(s), I don't feel bad at all in thinking about it in these terms. So...what happened at impulse!? The story about that whole deal (per Ed Michel) makes it sound like, Ra & Abraham hardballed a deal, dropped off some tapes, took the money and left. So maybe nobody at that point cared about that, that was one world, theirs was another, and they got what they had come for. The whole Ra thing...so many unified conflicting layers...true visionary, true hustler, Independent Black Entrepreneur, no desire for long-range profit, a mass of contradictions. Even without all the great music...one of the more interesting 20th Century Americans, period. A bit of what we all were, are and will probably always be, right there in this one world. And Alton Abraham...did anybody really ever get a handle on THAT guy?

Selfus Donoria - The Quiet Side Of Selfus Donoria Becca - Don't Call Me Becky

That's very true with Blue Note. You know you had a REALLY good record when you could play Side 2 and not have any kind of a lag. CDs only emphasized this.

Right. In other words, they would have recommended what they thought was best for you, not the product they got the best commission on. Best podiatrist in town, I stopped going to because, yeah, great doctor, but the guy had prouct out the ass for sale, and was not bashful about recommending it to you. Still a great doctor, and I never felt pressured, but...just not comfortable with that setup. I'm old-school and think that a doctor's function is to diagnose, treat, refer, recommend, but let somebody else be a salesman. It took me a while before I found a PCP practice that wouldn't give you free samples of whatever they thought would be good for you and then wait to prescribe it. I thought it was a "let me know if it works or you, thing", but...trends manifest themself, and you see the pharma reps coming in all happy and whatnot and...no thanks. Hearing aids...I want it to be right the first time, and I want to know that whoever is hooking me up has their priorities right - getting what is best for me, not for their balance sheet.

That's the route I would want to go, get a medical referral to somebody who's not under contract to any one company...there weren't, right?

But you're missing the point here!!!!

Try swapping not just the side order, but the track order on the new Side 1 to match the liner note order. I was surprised how well that worked. For me, anything after "Ancient Ethiopia" is anti-climactic,So, on LP, no biggie, play one side at a time, you can have it the Saturn way or the impulse! way, it's Burger King, have it YOUR way!. But for CD, I like it ending that way - and with the revised Side 1 track order, it makes for a really nice arc, starting and ending up quietly (although totally different types of quiet), and building up and then down from that big hot stuff in the middle. Of course it's possible. But...it doesn't seem like Ra to not know the names of his own compositions. I'm a little bit surprised that, with all the Ra-obsessive research/commentary out there that this side-switch and possible even track-order switch has never been researched or commented on other than, hey, it happened (and then only with the side-switch). Alton Abraham lived long enough to have been asked about all of it.

Going with Goodson, only because it seems to have become a bit of the family business? https://gameshows.fandom.com/wiki/Marjorie_Goodson "Caravan" or "Perdido"?

People just be grabbing the ones they want and skipping the ones they don't, so it LOOKS like open season (just not on wabbit!) So the correct answer would not be Bill Heid?

They'd still have to pay composer/publishing for that one minute. They should sell it as a ringtone, like, the ULTIMATE Complete, not complete until you got THAT.

Not just right, but CORRECT!!!!

Turns out I've been buying some of these "approaching audiophile quality" issues this last go 'round without even realizing it! Not sure how much of a difference it really makes in terms of experience, but not having this one in any other form, works for me! No idea what this must have sounded like in 1966, but the Tommy Hunter reverb makes it at once sound dated and timeless. The playing doesn't sound "dated" interms of substance, but in terms of time/place, yes. But so what? All real music SHOULD! Two things apropos of this period of Ra (1963, Choreographer's workshop) - 1 - The saxophonists are SO predicative of what was just about going to happen on the instrument that it ain't even funny. Whatever was about to happen, it was already happening here. 2 - in terms of "normal" jazz - did ANYBODY use the Hunter-style reverb before Sonny Rollins's mouthpiece solo at the end of East Broadway Rundown? Finally - always a pleasure to read Clifford Allen's contributions anywhere, and this one here is no exception!

Gene Harris. Trick question, right? Bob Eubanks or Kevin Eubanks?

IT'S THE SEX PISTOLS

Yeah, I got that. I'm just trying to get a feel for the whole process/business. Totally unfamiliar world to me, from every angle.

Ok, this is all good information, thanks!

So you were referred, or knew him already? Didn't just pick somebody out of the phonebook, right? And does he do all the work, or was there "technicians" involved? And he's an independent, right? Not affiliated with any one company?

So, an audiologist is a doctor, right? Not just a "technician"? Or is it like a lot of places, there's a doctor in charge, but the technician does all the "real work"? I guess that will vary from office to office....rhetorical question, then. Really don't want them right now, but insurance will run out upon retirement, and I do NOT want to be fucking around with something that "sorta" works, if you know what I mean.

VERY much appreciate the "anatomy of a track" takes of "Perfect Man" (which seems to intersect with Eddie Harris somehow, somewhere, from whatever directions), plus the inclusion of "Space Probe"...which in hindsight is a prediction of the nightmare that the "real world" came to embrace and OD on basic electronic sound effects in the upcoming decade. Not that that's what he had in mind, but...all a prophet can do is predict what is going to happen, not how it will go once it does, right? The actual album OG itself, it's nice, I like that a lot.

Ok, perhaps I need to refine the question...I know that Beltone has staff audiologists, of what degree of training/expertise, I don't know. Probably at any range from novice to expert. MiracleEar, no idea. How did you - or any other user of this product - select your audiologist? Was it an insurance-directed decision, a personal recommendation, or just what. The last thing i want to do is to just "pick one out of the phone book", do that thing. Going to Wal-Mart or some such really doesn't appeal to me, but neither does getting sold a bill of overpriced goods, which is what I worry about with someplace like Beltone. Been subscribing to CR for a few years now, and find them to be anywhere from totally confidence-inspiring to totally head-scratching.

I was pretty much a NY Ra guy, but lately have been revisiting Chicago Ra and getting just all kinds of illuminations there, both backwards and forwards. But, you know, it's all good, even if the later you go into the Philly stuff, the more "comfy" I think it gets. Nothing wrong with that, and the lesson I take is that spirits are eternal, but bodies age, and the human mind has both components to deal with.

What I find comically tragic is that all this pre-Abrahamic referencing is tied into a post-Abrahamic construct. Nation of Islam? Wanting me to believe in a pre-Abrahamic construct in the name of Islam, which is a very much Abrahamic construct...so, sure... I think enough anthropology is occurring that would allow us to get over all that. Let's see where all that leads, that's where the real fun is, imo. I think the freest thinkers, like Abrams, Braxton, the OG AACM, had already evolved past any of that specific-doctrinaire stuff. In other words, I don't really know what I CAN believe about our true origins, but I'm pretty sure I know what I CAN'T believe. It may be that we never truly know, which is preferable (to me) than just making shit up and calling it "real".

It's a faceless feminine image (symbolizing birth/fertitlity?) and some kind of steps into something...now, did the image come up from those stairs, or is it going to go back down into it? Either way, where does it lead? Abrams poetry is included, and may or may not be related to the painting. "3 degrees and 7 suns - before eternity"...more birth/time suggestions? My own, non-illuminated take on it is that it's basically an image of life in time, where we come from, where do we go, or do we really come from and/or go anywhere, are we always here, never here? I know the recent tendency has been to downplay the effect that Sun Ra's time in Chicago had on the AACM, and stuff like this is maybe beyond something as "simple" as "music. "Mainstream" thought has positioned NOI and other Afrocentric movements as being focused strictly on race, but there's a whole other element to it, lots of numerologies and origin stories. A generation of hip-hop carried some of this line of thought forward with the Five-Percenters. One can get lost in it, or one can just get lost in trying to keep it all straight. I would be in the latter group, but...whenever coming to stuff like this, it's important to be aware of what all might be going on. There's symbols, numbers, references to pre-Abrahamic concepts of life and time...I would not want to speculate beyond that, and do regret that my initial curiosities into this sphere of knowledge were not sustained.