JSngry

May?

https://youtu.be/-jj_Nu-k8lo

Yeah, I called him "Steve" up thread, that what he was going by back in the day when I first heard him, but same guy.

Yeah, that's a "Bill Smith" record...might be interesting nonetheless. Thinking back on that time that some Brubeck band toured with Perry Robertson abd thinking that it was an ..unexpected choice. Realizing now that, ok, there was THIS guy from a while back, they've been there before.

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This one:

Ok, as it pertains to Shapiro's quartet, yeah, almost immediately in the first movement, but the opening phrase, not the Faure thing. So, imagine how LOL'ed I got when reading these liner notes! Shapero's first composition teacher was none other than,,, Slominsky!!!!! btw, this version of the peice does not appear to have seen CD issue, which is a pity. It's frisky!

a delightful little platter! Mine is mono, and none the worse for it.

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Oh, I don't know... there's always Cher's Half Breed LP..

There's a record on CRI of Orchestra USA playing one of his "Bill Smith" works that very much fits that description. Not released until a decade or do after the fact

Buhania, not Bu Pleasant. Although, bot Bus were Pleasant.

Yeah, I mean, just how desperate for porn do you have to be to buy that kind of shit, right? It's like a Xerox of some budget level "men's" magazine with a name like Rouge or something like that. Standards, humans, please!

https://www.discogs.com/Sab%C3%BA-Y-Sus-Pachangueros-Astronautas-De-La-Pachanga/release/4729927

Back in the day, some writers would talk about Oklahoma players having that influence in their playing. Nobody really expounded on it that I know of, though. People didn't do like they do now.

It's out there at reasonable enough prices.

I read that Sue quote...where? I thought it was around the time of the Changes albums? Later in 1974 (December) than this one, from January. Seems to me that a lot happened in 1974, noticeably the jettisoning of Bluiett, who, as much as I love him in other places, did not seem like a "Mingus" type player. Plenty of blues, but not a lot of bebop/change type playing. This music demanded both. Adams/Pullen, yes, synergy. But Bluiett added to that mix? hmmmmmmmmmm..... Either way...From Let My Children hear Music, there was not another truly great (i.w. - epic) Mingus record until the two Changes records. This Carnegie Hall record...if the band cuts were truly together, I think that jam session record might not have come out, or at least not all by itself, and definitely not unchanged for almost 50 years. Maybe they jsut got a not-great recodcinging, maybe the band was not gelled good. We'll see and I'll be glad to be wrong.

I really have to wonder how tight the band was...Mingus was not yet "hollering at the band again", to use Sue's memorable description of when all the over-medication regime receded... and a lot of talk from him at the time about how he had a band full of players who went straight for out and didn't bother with the changes...I can kinda hear that on the jams, where Rahsaan sort of pointedly "schools" George Adams about that... I'm fully prepared to be let down by this one,, but hey, it's Mingus. I've never not bought a Mingus record, never, and I have no intention of stopping now.

not played by the composer.... again, not by the composer, but....just sayin'...

It's the Jackie band without Jackie!

Coltrane was also indebted to Ayler. Newtonian pursuit of a quantum end.

Have these seen any kind of a reissue or any other packaging, legit or otherwise? Has anybody here ever heard either/both?

Bill is cool enough, but William O. is damn near scary!

And soprano as well. I think it's quite obvious, but not everybody does...but intervallic architecture is what it is. Although....nobody delves as deeply into the harmonic insides of this music as Coltrane did (except some pianist, but people are going to claim a Cecil Influence there). Coltrane got deep into math, physics, and Bartok to get to where he got, and of course, world religious studies, and let's face it, most people are content with "changes" and "spirituality". Most, certainly not all. But the influence, my god, the influence... And Jesus, AACM....Roscoe or Braxton on one of those intense circular breathing multi-directional excursions that go off in different directions simultaneously within themselves...