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https://ronaldshannonjackson.bandcamp.com/album/ronald-shannon-jackson-live-1982-chicago-navy-pier no CD option...

Condolences to his brother Arr.

Yeah, I'm getting a rough listen to this and feel compelled to buy. STRONG!!!!!

Hey, all I posted was a picture. No need to say anything, worth a thousand words, etc. I like the guy's look!

I got my shipping notice today, it's due here on Friday. For the record, Scott has been very gracious about, and during, this whole thing. That counts!

Flugelhorn, styles..1957-58?

I like his look, and posted the picture as a tribute to same. Nothing political about a man with a good look!

Oh, as it pertains to "politics" in this thread...we're walking a very fine line here, and maybe have veered outside it before puling it back in, but for the record - yes, this whole time feels more than a little "existential crisis"-y for so many people in so many ways, that have at once everything and nothing to do with "politics". so here's what my principles are going to be on this thread - the more the discussion is about actual events and circumstances the discourse is, facts, the safer we are. The more it goes towards actual politics and political figures, the closer outside the lines we go, and the more moderation will be watching to see how quick it comes back in. And if this ever turns into, to use Mika Breshinski's most memorable of phrases (at least I heard it from her), a drunken beer truck, then yeah, we're done here.

I grew up on Maynard Ferguson, Bill Chase, and Cat Anderson, so I prefer a Double Hi-C, actually.

Yep, this is where we all (hopefully) want Keith Ellison to bring his A-game straight through, all the way, do NOT fuck this up.

I'd like to add that, as a general principle, history is a trailing indicator rather than an absolute predictor, odds, being just that - odds.

Ok, Sonny being between bands in 1962, Miles having a gig but no tenor player, Sonny filling in for a quick minute, that makes at least some kind of sense, But none of the rest of any of this does.

Until then, I can d/l to my devices (and burn as possible) and probably not give a damn if they ever do. I've done the right thing in placing an order and will gladly pay when the order can be fulfilled. Until then, hey, thanks Amazon! Hope the label is as happy about this as I am...

It's taking a media break until fall. It's using the time to refresh, revitalize, and rejuvenate. The smart money continues to watch the #s anyway. So...are you going to continue to post about police states and military coups or not? I mean, I don't care, your call on that one, just wondering what the guiding principle is going to be.

Americans really need to do some boning up on both The Insurrection Act of 1807 and Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. These are the laws in play here. Citizens need to be aware of both the language of these laws as well as their application over the years. Do your own research, get facts, not opinion-reinforcing blabberchatter. We The People need to have a clear (and clear-headed) understanding of the irrevocable principles of these laws as well as their fur-lined fuzzy grey areas. There are laws about this shit, ok?

Ok, check this out - I opted to buy from Amazon proper, even though the item is temporarily unavailable. So I'm not yet charged. However, the record qualified fo Auto-Rip, so I now have a copy in my Amazon Music folder. Not a free record forever, but a free record for now, and purchased legitimately!

Well, i already ordered it, so...too bad about that. But I do think a picture emerges of a period in which Miles continued to be bored, and possibly self-indulgent/sloppy. Probably a lot of extra-musical considerations there, I think any musical ones would be documented. So I'm thinning if there were gigs at all, they were either highly "local", like in Brooklyn or someplace, or a weekend in someplace like Detroit, Cleveland, Philly., something for a quick and easy paycheck. But maybe not even that. Maybe he jsut didn't do anything for a few months for whatever reason.

Their jobs. We got rules about how this shit works. Not just rules, but laws, bygod actual laws, with precedents and policies and procedures and all that good shit. You may not be a criminal if you thing that the rules don't apply to you, but you sure as hell are a criminal - by definition - if you think that the laws don't and proceed to act accordingly. I don't care if you're some self-thinning herd member or the president of the united states, and i don't care what you use to justify your actions if you don't obey the law, you are a criminal. To what extent, that's for the courts to figure out. not the individual. This is not complicated. Really it's not.

Forgive me, but... DUH! I mean, who in their right mind is equating or otherwise grouping "the protesters" with "the criminals"...who needs to sort this out to begin with? This is a complication of perception, not of reality.

Ithis is a darn good record. I didn't realize how much I missed hearing George Adams until I started listening top him again.

Ask not what you can do to your country. Ask what your country will do to you.

I'd have to think that if Sonny had played more than a night or two with Miles before he officially resurfaced that word would have gotten out fast and the grapevine would be abuzz quicker that you could say Robertson Caruso. The only variable would be in what city it would have been and for how many sets. If we want to take the chronology as literal (and I'm not sure that I do...), let's Sherlock this shit - Sonny returned to public performance in November of 1961 to much attention. If we're going to look at Sonny doing a few gigs/sets with Miles as a "warmup" to that, and if this was supposed to have happened after Hank left the band, well, Hank supposedly(?) stayed with Miles until early 1962 (that does not at all seem accurate, btw). so...would he have covered for Hank on a gig, or even a set or two? "Unpredictable lives", etc...but still. Also, Rocky Boyd...generally reported to have taken Hank's place for three months after Hank left in 1961?!?!?! Losin has this: Hank Mobley joined the Davis Quintet in late 1960 and immediately hit the road: Cloister Club, Chicago (December 26-January 8); Bradford Hotel Storyville Room, Boston (January 23-28); a live jazz program for Chicago's WMBI-FM (February 6); Kleinhans Music Hall, Buffalo (February 25); Village Vanguard, New York (February 28-March 12); Shrine Auditorium, Los Angeles (March 31); Blackhawk Supper Club, San Francisco (April 4-30); Foster's House of Jazz, Detroit (May 25-28). and this: After the flurry of Columbia studio activity and live recording in the spring of 1961, Davis was relatively inactive during 1961-1962. He was evidently unhappy with Hank Mobley, though he did not replace him until sometime the following year. J.J. Johnson was added to the group as another solo voice, and the Sextet was booked at the Club Renaissance, Los Angeles (October 12-19); Minor Key Club, Detroit (December 7-10); Jazz Gallery, New York (December 21, 1961-January 3, 1962); Howard Theatre, Washington (January 12-18 -- Johnson apparently did not make this gig); Indiana University Auditorium (March 24 -- a benefit for the Indiana NAACP for which Davis did not show!); April 17-22, Village Vanguard, New York; May 19-28, Mardi Gras, Kansas City; June 1-10, Music Box Theatre, Los Angeles; June 12-July 1, Blackhawk Supper Club, San Francisco; July 4-10, The Penthouse, Seattle; August 16-19, Minor Key, Detroit; August 24-25, La Comédie Canadienne, Montreal (Davis filled in for an ailing Sonny Rollins for the August 25 matinée); September 17-22, Showboat, Philadelphia; November 13-19, Village Vanguard, New York. A four-night engagement at the Music Box Club, Cleveland (December 6-9) was canceled and rescheduled for December 27-30. Mobley is still listed as the saxophonist at the end of 1962. So...when did Rocky Boyd's three months come? And where would Sonny have popped in with no fanfare to play a set or two, maybe even a night or two? There's a window between June-mid-October of 1961 that's not documented by this chronology, and maybe that's where Rocky Boyd stepped in for three months? Maybe Hank was "having problems" and couldn't do any road gigs for a little bit? That's the type of real-life thing that doesn't get told in the general history, and understandably so. But still, it would affect the chronology if true. Sonny's Jazz Gallery residency was November of 1961, before Miles' stint. and was pretty hi-profile: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1961/11/18/sabbatical-2 I don't see him doing a sextet gig, sorry... so I'm buying that Miles' Diary book to see what it has, it goes through 1961, which should tell us all we think we want to know. Maybe..