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The idea of marketing this as a "lost Herbie Hancock" recording is VERY deceptive. Obviously Hancock is the biggest name on the record, but he is simply one of the hired session players on a session more appropriately described as a Union for Reform Judaism secular recording starring Rabbi David Davis with arrangements by Jonathan Klein and band members including Hancock, Carter, etc.. But - that wouldn't sell more than 8 copies. Hardly a sequel to Speak Like A Child...I guess if you stretch it far enough, maybe they could call it "Speak Like A Mensch" ...

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My correction, Capitol acquired a 50% interest in Mosaic a few years ago. This has nothing to do with "voting" or managerial control, indeed, if Capitol were involved managerially, it is very unlikely Sony, Universal or any other competitor would license to them. It is even less likely that Capitol have any involvement at the level of deciding on titles to issue.

EMI has no voting interest in Mosaic. Mosaic is an independently owned company that licenses from a variety of companies including EMI. Licensing has nothing to do with voting interest.

Right, of course it is Haynes on the 63 date - I typed Jones above our of force of habit. I just A/Bed the 65 show. It isn't nearly as dramatic of a difference as the version of Impressions from the 63 show. The New Thing CD already sounded pretty good. I think Trane is a little louder on the new remaster, and the drums are perhaps slightly more crisp. I can't really say which I prefer. They are both good. In the process of A/Bing the other tracks from the 63 date. Given the accuracy of your comments so far, we are all certainly looking forward to that.

You're kidding? The Olatunji stuff is SO badly recorded it is virtually unlistenable. Too bad, it's smoking hot stuff, but really - how many times will anyone listen to it? Well, personally, I've listened to it a bunch of times. I know I'm not the only one. And yet six years after the release of the Olatunji concert, Verve continues to reissue Coltrane material unimpeded. Guy If they can get the complete '63 Birdland material and make it sound as good as the new Newport stuff, I won't be impeding them. Anytime they want to do remixes of any Coltrane titles I would be thrilled. How about an RVG remaster of Crescent? And if they can do the unissued 1966 and 1967 stuff which is potentially explosive stuff I would be all over it.

Not quite unreleased -- but previous versions were edited. Now that you've listened to it, what was taken out on previous issued versions? Is it just bass and drum solos, or part of Coltrane and McCoy's solos? Guy There is a comment in the liner notes that the bass solo was for the most part so badly distorted on the tapes that it's not usable, so most of it is edited out. according to the notes, that's all that's missing, purely because it couldn't be rescued. So the bass solo isn't in the newly released version either? What's the substantive difference between the two versions? The old one is 15:52, the new one is 23:30. I just A/Bed the versions of Impressions. There is about a one minute intro (maybe a little less) by Trane that has been restored, followed by an approximately five and a half minute solo by Tyner, followed by about 30 seconds of the lost bass solo (which really does sound awful - I'm sure his playing is fine but you can see why they did not include the entire solo - it's nice that they included this little snippet just to satisfy mycuriosity, though). I think the distortion on Garrison's bass may be why they left the piano solo out to start with; it is fairly prominent in that section, too. However, there is no way I can think of that they could have restored Trane's intro without reintroducing the piano solo - it just wouldn't have worked. Trane does sound much better on this remaster. Elvin Jones is a little higher in the mix. Garrison is much higher in the mix, which is somewhat debateable choice given the sound problem. Oddly, I actually prefer the way Tyner sounded on the old master. I haven't listened to the rest of the disc. Edit: I was way off on the duration of that Trane intro. It is about 20 seconds. Problem with your analysis is - It's Roy Haynes playing on Impressions, not Elvin Jones. Pretty easy to get that after hearing it for a minute or so.

What about the '65 Juan Les Pins performance? You're kidding? Guy The '65 Juan Les Pins performance was professionally recorded, unlike a lot of other stuff in Wild's discography. Good move on Verve's part to license it. Let's face it, though - A Love Supreme is Coltrane's prime asset, so the cost to Verve makes it worthwhile. The Olatunji stuff is SO badly recorded it is virtually unlistenable. Too bad, it's smoking hot stuff, but really - how many times will anyone listen to it? And let me ask you this - would Coltrane have authorized the release of something that badly recorded? What came out can only tarnish the legendary status of the performance and makes it much tougher for Verve to flog the genuinely great stuff still unreleased. Not every shred of tape need to be stuck on a disc!! And some stuff is best left in the vault.

No need to take such a nasty tone. The '61 Newport performance was in fact recorded, supposedly with excellent sound: setlist: My Favorite Things/Naima/Impressions (announced as "So What") personnel: John Coltrane, McCoy Tyner, Reggie Workman, Art Davis, and Elvin Jones According to David Wild and Ashley Kahn, the 1961 Newport performance was NOT recorded by Impulse, to whom Coltrane was under contract to at the time, so as I said earlier, it is NOT reasonable to expect Impulse to be able to issue it. OK, I'll take that as an implicit concession that the 1961 was in fact recorded. Verve has released Coltrane material not recorded by Impulse several times in the past few years, so I guess this comes down to a definition of "reasonable expectations". Not sure what you mean by "privately held" -- wasn't it seeded on one of the torrent sites a while back? There are definitely multiple copies circulating. Guy The stuff Verve has been releasing comes primarily from the family tape stash, which they (Ravi) seem to be letting come out at a rather glacial pace. Some of that stuff, in fact, is Impulse property anyways, that they have been essentially negotiating to get back - tapes Thiele removed, duplicates Impulse had RVG make that Coltrane removed. Or stuff like the Olatunji concert (that IMO should have been left unreleased) that Coltrane had recorded himself. Any '61 Newport tapes come either from radio transcription, Newport Festival's own tapes, or audience recordings. Wild's discography lists anything with any tape - many of which are terrible audience recordings made by anyone with a portable cassette player. Where it says "private tape", if not recorded by the venue in a professional manner, it's likely an audience boot or copy made by an amateur from the radio - which most are. Let's not worry about whether some speculative boot tape exists or not. There's LOADS of official, Impulse material STILL unreleased, largely late period, which Verve unfortunately considers low potential stuff. That's the stuff that most needs to see the light of day. Want to help make that happen? But the new Newport disc. That'll let Verve know there's still a viable market for quality Coltrane material. As well as rewarding them for a hell of a good job on this one.

There is an intro by Coltrane previously edited out as well as Tyner's solo. At the beginning there is an intro of the band causing the first track to be longer now. Instrumental intro, or a verbal introduction of the tune/band? Thanks for the info, Robert. Guy On Impressions - soprano intro. Om I Want To Talk About You - Connors verbal intro, first asking the crowd to cool off and then introducing the Coltrane band members.

Not quite unreleased -- but previous versions were edited. Now that you've listened to it, what was taken out on previous issued versions? Is it just bass and drum solos, or part of Coltrane and McCoy's solos? Guy There is a comment in the liner notes that the bass solo was for the most part so badly distorted on the tapes that it's not usable, so most of it is edited out. according to the notes, that's all that's missing, purely because it couldn't be rescued. So the bass solo isn't in the newly released version either? What's the substantive difference between the two versions? The old one is 15:52, the new one is 23:30. edit: Apparently "I Want to Talk About You" is over a minute longer on the new release as well. Is this just crowd noise? Guy There is an intro by Coltrane previously edited out as well as Tyner's solo. At the beginning there is an intro of the band causing the first track to be longer now.

No need to take such a nasty tone. The '61 Newport performance was in fact recorded, supposedly with excellent sound: setlist: My Favorite Things/Naima/Impressions (announced as "So What") personnel: John Coltrane, McCoy Tyner, Reggie Workman, Art Davis, and Elvin Jones According to David Wild and Ashley Kahn, the 1961 Newport performance was NOT recorded by Impulse, to whom Coltrane was under contract to at the time, so as I said earlier, it is NOT reasonable to expect Impulse to be able to issue it. And one must wonder why, if good sources do exist, it hasn't been released officially yet. Since we know Coltrane's record company didn't record it, any recording must be privately held. The 1966 performance was likewise not recorded by Impulse.

Not quite unreleased -- but previous versions were edited. Now that you've listened to it, what was taken out on previous issued versions? Is it just bass and drum solos, or part of Coltrane and McCoy's solos? Guy There is a comment in the liner notes that the bass solo was for the most part so badly distorted on the tapes that it's not usable, so most of it is edited out. according to the notes, that's all that's missing, purely because it couldn't be rescued. But like I said - get it for the sound. Just drop dead huge improvement. On the '63 stuff Roy Haynes drums now sound like real drums instead of the tin cans in previous versions - and he's just dropping bombs all the way through.

Pay his $10 and get the CD!!

Wow, what a complete fucking asshole. I've probably bought around 2,000 cds over the last 10 years, and I'm the reason the music industry is dying. Why don't you get the slightest clue about who/what you are posting about before you go around throwing words like "asswipe" around? Some of us have been weary of (or even insulted by) Universal/Verve's cynical marketing methods for years, and see no need to give them the benefit of the doubt, ESPECIALLY when it comes to new repackagings of material by major artists (where they tend to stoop the lowest). Off I go to figure out that "ignore" feature... A complete fucking asshole is someone who calls something "lame" without having the slightest clue about what they're talking about. Alternative definition - any wimp who calls someone a "fucking asshole" on an otherwise civil internet board. Real men don't do anything online they wouldn't do face to face. Too bad any fool with a computer can post his stupidity online. Anyways, my mistake, I wasn't aiming my comments at you (I know, you probably assume anytime someone uses the term "asswipe" they mean you) but really at music lovers who should not let the comments of a few dimwits prevent them for getting a great, bargain priced release of kick-ass music in superb sound. And yes, it's people like you - numbnuts who post DEAD WRONG information without having ANY IDEA AT ALL about the title in question that give otherwise sincere potential buyers the wrong idea about a title that causes them to decide not to buy. An unfortunate byproduct of the internet era is that it gives even those with nothing to contribute the ability to damage a product, and that has indeed contributed to labels only playing it very safe...and to declining sales.

Here's my earlier post on this CD from the reissues page: By the way, the reason this one has come out is simply that the original three track masters were located, giving Verve the opportunity to remix and produce a completely new master using the original tapes for the first time. And the sound is simply AMAZING - incredibly full, detailed and robust with all the stage ambience and air around Coltrane's horn intact, and amazing representation of what is, in the case of the 1963 material, essential Coltrane. Too bad there are some stupid asswipes who like to complain and knock without having even a slight clue. This one is listing DIRT cheap - I paid $10 for mine. So let's see...$10 for a new remix of drop dead great material with an unreleased track to boot - and some people still complain. No wonder the music industry is dying. Hey, if there are any MUSIC fans out there who know a bit about Coltrane (and know that the '63 Newport smokes) - and if you can afford $10 - this one is a killer. MAJOR kudos to Verve for putting this out and spending the $$ to get the masters and remix - and fuck the naysayers! And...anyone who thinks this qualifies as lame simply needs to have their heads examined. And also...the 1961 Newport performance was not recorded, so it would be a bit difficult to have included it, but sure, I guess Verve should have tried. And the '66 performance was not recorded by Impulse, if there are tapes of it, they are with the Coltrane family or elsewhere. And that performance is at least an hour long - would have been tough to include on this disc, but I know...$10 is a lot for some people to pay for such limited material...right? Complain on.

By the way, the reason this one has come out is simply that the original three track masters were located, giving Verve the opportunity to remix and produce a completely new master using the original tapes for the first time. And the sound is simply AMAZING - incredibly full, detailed and robust with all the stage ambience and air around Coltrane's horn intact, and amazing representation of what is, in the case of the 1963 material, essential Coltrane. Too bad there are some stupid asswipes who like to complain and knock without having even a slight clue. This one is lisdting DIRT cheap - I paid $10 for mine. So let's see...$10 for a new remix of drop dead great material with an unreleased track to boot - and some people still complain. No wonder the music industry is dying. Hey, if there are any MUSIC fans out there who know a bit about Coltrane (and know that the '63 Newport smokes) - and if you can afford $10 - this one is a killer. MAJOR kudos to Verve for putting this out andf spending the $$ to get the masters and remix - and fuck the naysayers!

Huge improvement. All of the boxes Concord has produced of the Fantasy-owned material have been exemplary in terms of concept, remastering, packaging, and price. This is a public service announcement: FUCK CONCORD!!! Now back to regularly scheduled programming. Guy Stupid post of the year. Completely impotent.

Ravi wouldn't have anything to do with this as the material is all already owned by Verve. They need neither his permission nor involvement to reissue material long in their vaults.

Just because the tapes are being sent to Iron Mountain doesn't mean they are all going to be lost or inaccessible forever. Assuming the Fantasy tape archivist was halfways competent, they are probably mostly well inventoried and can be accessed. Sure, some will be hard to find and so will bonus tracks, but Iron Mountain isn't some government warehouse, most tapes will still be locatable. And besides, I doubt much has gone there yet, it will likely take some time.

To me it's a very disappointing list. Although there are great titles, I have them all happily on JRVG's, for the first time, I have zero to purchase from these - and since I'm a loyal diehard, that must surely spell trouble for BN as there are likely lots of other regulars in the same boat. Too bad, IMO it's a missed opportunity - there are still lots of great titles not yet given the RVG treatment in Japan either - Elvin Jones, Bobby Hutcherson, Ornette, later Turrentine, Tyner, Rivers and many others. And since I won't be buying - and I'm sure others who already have RVG's of these - that doesn't help get to the numbers needed to continue the series. Cuscuna has broken the cardinal rule of the RVG series in the last several years - always have some titles never before RVG'd. Oh well - thankfully the Prestige RVG series is continuing with lots of great stuff given RVG's sound for the first time!

FS: A bunch of Japanese K2 Mini-LP CD's, all mint: 1. Roland Kirk - Kirk's Works - still beats the RVG and not botched like the US K2 - $10 2. Eric Dolphy - At The Five Spot, Volumes 1 and 2 - $10 each 3. John Coltrane - Stardust - $10 Some K2's from Japan in jewel cases: Eric Dolphy - In Europe Volumes 1,2,3 $10 each Art Blakey - Caravan - $10 Joe Henderson - Tetragon - killer and very rare - $10 Sonny Rollins - Next Album - a great, under-rated album very rare - $12 and some odds & ends: John Coltrane - Setting The Pace XRCD - $15 McCoy Tyner - Sahara MFSL SACD - $15 Shipping at cost, usually $3 for one, a couple bucks each additional, paypal is preferred - thanks!

1. Super Rare Japanese CD GATO BARBIERI & DOLLAR BRAND "Confluence" on the Freedom label with the same cover as the original CD, complete with insert and obi, $30 plus shipping. 2. DEWEY REDMAN "Look For The Black Star" on the Freedom label, superb quartet date with Jim Young, Donald Garrett and Eddy Moore, Japanese CD with insert and obi. Very rare. $30 plus shipping. 3. KEITH JARRETT Complete Impulse Recordings 1975-1977, 4 CD box set in slipcase (minor shelf wear as expected), otherwise perfect and much harder to find that the box of earlier Impulse recordings - $75 plus shipping, great music with lots of unreleased stuff.

The Total Eclipse CD (if found) sounds perfectly fine, it is a remix by Malcolm Addey, the only possible complaint is that, due to the state of digital equipment at the time it was remastered, Harold Land sounds a bit on the metallic side. Total Eclipse is an absolute stone classic and should be at the top of the list for an RVG remaster, but my suspicion is - since they originally did a remix for the first CD issue which was very unusual at the time - there are master tape issues, or at least, the sound of the masters (reverb) are at issue.