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IMHO it's the best non-BN Blakey album from that period by a long way. Blakey wears a karate or judo suit on the front. Why I wonder? Is it to do with the plot of the musical? It appears to be, and consistent with the theme of the play, a boxer's robe. "Golden Boy" was a play about a young boxer's struggle to the top; filmed a couple of times, 1939 w/William Holden and as a musical, Kid Galahd w/Elvis in the 50's.

Selling the items as a lot would be a mistake. Collectors of this type of material will already have some of the records. Each collector will need specific records to fill out his collection. Selling the records individually captures that value for the seller. Of course, there is a less of a transaction and time cost in having one auction, as opposed to dozens of auctions. The auction houses can charge even > 20%; I think Swann Galleries (sells collectible books) charges 12% to both buyer and seller. On the other hand, it just takes one wealthy individual to determine that he (or she) wants to start a collection and cover the field to jump in.

CP32 I have several of those. CP35 I don't. Any list available of those six BN CP35? from another forum: CP35-3069 Morgan, Lee The Sidewinder CP35-3070 Adderley, Cannonball Somethin' Else CP35-3071 Hancock, Herbie Maiden Voyage CP35-3088 Coltrane, John Blue Train CP35-3089 Clark, Sonny Cool Struttin' CP35-3090 Blakey, Art Moanin' Unsure if it is accurate.

I have both (the early 60s German edition and the recent 3-language edition) and while I do find it a bit unwieldy too it is not THAT cumbersome. Remember 3 languages need to be accommodated, and I am glad to see not all the pics are the same as in the original edition from way back when, so both actually are complementary in a way. And some of the photographs actually do profit from being reproduced in that (enlarged) full size. And next to K. Abé's "Jazz Giants" and George T. Simon's "Simon Says" books (and Gene Deitch's "Cat on a Hot Tin Groove") these Taschen "coffee table" books don't look all that unwieldy anmore! And compared to books like that the Taschen books aren't all that expensive for what they offer. At least not by European standards. Anyway ... I agree about Baker's (hello Baker, BTW! ) coments about the collectibility of alex Steinweiss' albums cover art. Nothing agains the graphism and the "period flair" but honestly, a lot of these classical music and Broadway show potpourri 10-inchers should stilll be floating around in the second (third? fourth?) hand bins in somewhat tatty condition and I cannot see them becoming collectibles overnight just because they're Steinweiss covers. It's jsut that - as opposed to most David Stone Martin LPs - the music itself is not that collectible. (BTW, I am not sure I wold have wanted to invest in an entire David Stone Martin book either. The chapter in Manek Daver's other volume ("The rare and the beautiful) did for me for the time being. Regarding the book's size, I agree with Steve (hello Steve--mutual admiration society). I also have the original "Jazzlife" (I loaned my copies of the EP's for them to make the CD and display the cover sleeves in the new edition)and was never able to enjoy Berendt's commentary. Now I can and Taschen certainly would not have done separate editions. There are other bulky books, this one is huge, although not as big as the three books of Herbert Joos drawings. The photos do benefit from a larger display. Also, they did add photographs, a few from the original 1955 "Jazz West Coast" (Stan Getz photo; June Christy w/Laurindo Almeida, the latter in a large enough format to see autograph's on Almeida's guitar, which were not visible on most copies of the original book) and some others unpublished previously. Check out the Helmut Newton book "Sumo" from Taschen. It weights 66 pounds (30 kilos) and comes with its own table to hold it. I saw one at a local bookshop in West Hollywood once; it was a monster. The Taschen site claims that the book is sold out; at 10,000 copies (with the book retailing for $15,000--I can't believe that many people could afford such a book worldwide--at least that many who would possess sufficient funds and want the title). Taschen does publish some unusual format books. I would like to see them publish an outsized edition of Claxton's 1955 "Jazz West Coast" in a large size, such as the Nieswand book "Jazz in LA," maybe even bigger. That book contains many classic images which appeared as album or liner photographs. Regarding DSM, Steve, if you see that "Jazz Graphics" at a reasonable price, take a chance on it. The online antiquarian prices are ridiculous, but the book does show up cheaper. You don't need to spend big money on the presentation copy; the regular softcover is the same book w/o the signatures. One complaint I have about both of Daver's books is that neither contains full page illustrations of any of the covers. Other than that they are wonderful. "Jazz Graphics" contains comments by DSM about some of the covers. Also, the book contains interviews w/DSM and Norman Granz as well as other essays regarding DSM jackets. Lastly, my apologies to all for misspelling Mr. Steinweiss' name. Whenever I see the name, it reminds me of an oldtime baseball player, Snuffy Stirnweiss, and I misread the name.

I would not think there would be that much interest in those covers. Also, Taschen may later publish a lower priced softcover edition. Taschen still has copies of the limited edition of Claxton's book. They couldn't be selling that many at 1,000 Euros. A thousand copies is a lot of copies. David Stone Martin is much more collectible an illustrator than Stirnweiss; Manek Daver's book "Jazz Graphics David Stone Martin" is itself very collectible. It also appeared in a limited edition, hardcover (regular edition was softcover) presentation issue of 150 signed copies. That limited edition book, when it does appear, sells for less than the asking price of this Stirnweiss book. Bruce Weber's book on Chet Baker "Let's Get Lost" appeared as a thousand copies. Weber is an extremely popular photographer among collectors. This book sells for about the same price as the Stirnweiss book (less than the limited edition). But, it is a question of taste. If Stirnweiss' covers became extremely popular, it would certainly increase demand for the book.

I think the strips are an anti-theft device. They appear designed to make it tougher to open up a CD. The idea underlying the design being that it would be tougher to open the case in the store, steal the CD and leave the case empty. Some shops house all the CD's in plastic anti-theft holders. As I recall the Tower Records on the Sunset Strip in LA just put them out on the shelves. I remember that happening when they switched from long boxes. I rank jewel case ahead of the digipak w/spindles, digipak w/a pocket. The latter has issues of ruining the CD. The former has the design defect that is the subject of this thread. Jewel cases because they are completely modular, easily replaceable, has the digipak beat in that respect also.

I agree the digipaks with the "spindles" are a really bad design. The spindles break with regular handling. I will not put any more in my collection at this point; I prefer a mini LP, even if it's an import. So, "Sweets" and "Joe Newman at Count Basie's," I have in the Japanese version. Many of the Verve reissues did not have bonus tracks, so I don't lose much with the import. Of they cost a bit more. At least the Verve Elite series came in digipaks that lacked spindles. Of course, the problem with that packaging is that it can scratch the CD. All in all, it is a bad design. Mini-LP in a sleeve is much better. Also, if I got a digipak in the mail and it was broken, I would return it (if it were a collectible CD in the first place). With used product, I have seen sellers put a little piece of bubble wrap over the spindles so they don't break in transit (even for jewel cased material). Of course, with a sealed product, that is not an option. The seller should pack more carefully. Regards, Baker

Brownie can you please, or anyone else who has obtained a copy, describe the book's binding? Is it a hardcover or a softcover? If it is hardcover, is it cloth bound (cloth covered) or paper/cardboard? Does it have a dust jacket or are boards of the book illustrated? Thanks in advance, Baker

That movie is wonderful; Ray Barretto appears with the Fania All Stars (and Celia Cruz). I recently saw this on a double bill at a local revival theater. I wanted to see the second feature Wattstax, the documentary of the 1972 concert at the LA Colesium. Soul Power was so good that Wattstax was a bit of a letdown (still very enjoyable). Wattstax intercuts with Richard Pryor doing some jokes at a bar. The sequences in Soul Power with Ali were more entertaining (and enlightening). The audience really dug Bill Withers.

Vol 1. contains the same tracks as the Japanese edition of the CD; Japanese edition has different cover (nice Claxton photo). Thanks, Baker

How about this one: 1949 Carnegie Hall Christmas Concert (I know there's a thread on this one somewhere else); 190342389270;$143 for the single disc? There are three up on Amazon, cheapest just added for $17, added after the auction closed. 2 of the remaining ones appear to be from resellers, but the other two are at $27, a lot for one disc, but at least a sane price.

Is there any overlap (say, from bonus cuts) between the Brazilliance 1&2 (US editions) and the 1954 Almeida Pacific Jazz reissued in Japan referred to above? Thanks, Baker

Same here; have gotten some nice stuff from him. Also, I think the auctions are genuine, based on the results I have seen. Some auctions I suspect shill bidding, particularly since all the bids are now anonymous. My only peeve in this topic is with sellers who put a "For Sale" heading and it turns out to be an auction--something noted by others. Regards, Baker

I remember being a bit disappointed with that one but I haven't listened to it in ages, I'll have to re-investigate it. Pleased to have my feeling confirmed, Cliff. I am far happier with Perkins and Kamuca's Tenors Head On. I think the problem with the Cohn/Perkins/Kamuca session is that none of them really get a chance to strech out at all, all the tunes are quite short, IIRC. Ah, but "Tenors Head On", nothing but pure :wub: :wub: for that one, great cover too. "Tenors Head On" and "Grand Encounter" are two favorites of mine.

There is also a Coleman Hawkins which lists USA as the country of origin. There are no substantive differences in the content of the set. But, the booklet is shorter (does not include the second half which was the Japanese liner notes); inside cover of a set I just bought is blank (where the track listing for the first disc would appear--it does appear in other places in the notes and on the back of the box); lettering on the CD's is black (Japanese one is red). Copyright is different also, lists Verve on US one and does not mention JASRAC. Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish. Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English? Regards, Baker I don't know if you're asking about the Hawkins one but I have the Japanese version which has the liners in both languages. I also have the Carter one but that one, like yours, is in Spanish. The Carter; I had noticed that the Hawkins appeared in versions with Japanese/English and English only notes. Thanks, Baker

Bus Stop always is a favorite of mine. Regarding "Long Cool Woman" it did not sound like a Hollies song to me, when I hear it, it reminds of a CCR song (one of my favorite groups, so this is not a knock on the song; particularly reminded me of "Green River"). I don't know which tune came first. Of course, everything is derivative of something, but I wonder if anyone else heard this similarity. Regards, Baker

There is also a Coleman Hawkins which lists USA as the country of origin. There are no substantive differences in the content of the set. But, the booklet is shorter (does not include the second half which was the Japanese liner notes); inside cover of a set I just bought is blank (where the track listing for the first disc would appear--it does appear in other places in the notes and on the back of the box); lettering on the CD's is black (Japanese one is red). Copyright is different also, lists Verve on US one and does not mention JASRAC. Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish. Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English? Regards, Baker My Hawkins is just like yours Baker, US, 20 page booklet with the first page about disc 1 not printed on the inside cover. Such fantastic music! My Carter disc is a European printing with notes in Spanish. Yes, wonderful music; thanks for the information and for looking at your copies. Funny, as threads often do on this board, I start thinking about several others. This reminds me of the "errors on liner notes" thread, about the OCD seller who had both corrected and uncorrected notes for the Modern Jazz Symposium John Lewis/Getz Verve Elite--I had to have all editions of the Keynote set. Also, it reminded me of the last record store standing, as I think about where in LA I had picked up my copies of various used discs from this set; definitely Aron's Records (now gone); maybe East Side Records (under different ownership or gone); Music Exchange in Glendale (also gone); Amoeba (still around) Lastly, because I brought up Benny Carter, I would provide a quote from a great jazz photo book "Jazz Gallery 1" by Burt Goldblatt. Besides great photos, the book contains many quotes from jazzmen about the subjects of the pictures. For the Coleman Hawkins photo, Benny Carter is quoted: I sat beside Coleman Hawkins in McKinney's Cotton Pickers and Fletcher Henderson's Orchestra for quite a while, but found him one of the great unknowns. I really never got to know Hawk. I like him, got along with him excellently...I know it's a funny thing to say but that's the way it was." Also, Eddie Costa is quoted re Hawkins, "Coleman Hawkins would lean over the piano, plunk down a couple of fingers and whip out a few chords that completely changed the arrangement. Hawk knew melody backwards and forwards and could feel the structure, without harming the original concept. He could hear everything in his head." Goldblatt photographed that 196 session in NY that featured Costa (released as "The Hawk Swings" on Crown, other reissues followed) and several photos in the book are from that session. Regards and thanks, Baker

Thanks for the information. I remember picking up a couple copies of this at local shops in Los Angeles, always the same thing. But, I'll keep looking. Regards, Baker

Does anyone know why the CD of this reissue is so hard to find? Were there any copyright issues regarding the reissue? Or, was it just a limited pressing of disc's? A copy of the soundtrack (vinyl) appears on Ebay right now (I have no affiliation with the seller). Baker

There is also a Coleman Hawkins which lists USA as the country of origin. There are no substantive differences in the content of the set. But, the booklet is shorter (does not include the second half which was the Japanese liner notes); inside cover of a set I just bought is blank (where the track listing for the first disc would appear--it does appear in other places in the notes and on the back of the box); lettering on the CD's is black (Japanese one is red). Copyright is different also, lists Verve on US one and does not mention JASRAC. Great series and very interesting thread. Is there one on the Benny Carter disc? I have been curious about that one; I have seen a few copies of it and none of them has the liner notes in English; usually it is in Spanish. Does anyone have a copy of this disc w/liners in English? Regards, Baker

They are on the Japanese mini lp version too? I thought not, although Amazon's tracklist for the import inclues those four tracks. I only have the US edition with bonus tracks, but I would point out that the liner notes refer to the four bonus sessions also appearing on CD with a soundtrack featuring Art Blakey: Des Femmes Disparaissent/Les Tricheurs [sOUNDTRACK] . This latter CD is available from Amazon starting at $10 (I have no connection to any sellers). So, if it is worthwhile to get the import, and it lacks the bonus cuts, one can still find those cuts on a different CD.

I also find it a compelling read even though I've never been to the shops.

As a warning to any book collectors out there, check out these two items and compare these two listings of the book "Jazz" by Ed van der Elsken: 290338453456 and 290343052062 The first, listed by a reputable seller (I have dealt with several times personally) lists the collectible 1959 book club edition of this title, disclosing the faults and got a nice price. Curiously, the second listing, by a 7 feedback seller, uses the same description word for word. But this does not appear to be a resale of the first book; look at the scan of the book--it has a bar code on it, indicating it is the more recent re-issue by Steidhl. Innocent explanations may exist for this; however, I would be very careful about this item, if one is hoping to land a bargain on what can be a very expensive little book (if that sort of thing interests one). Good luck on those auctions. Baker

The first ten in the series had the slipcases: Johnny Smith, This is Tal Farlow, Wynton Kelly It's All Right, Hank Jones Urbanity, Lalo Schifrin's Sade, Clark Terry, Listen to Art Farmer, Perceptions by Dizzy, Only the Blues by Sonny Stitt and The Best in Blues by Dinah Washington. A great series (as I've said in this thread). I figured that the first ten would become collector's items because many people would throw away the slipcases (or they would become damaged) as they are somewhat awkward and not particularly attractive. I once got a somewhat angry in tone e-mail from a e-bay seller when I had asked about the presence of the slipcase. Anyone who doesn't want the slipcases, hey, put them up in the Offering and Looking for section. They will be worth something to somebody, as opposed to taking up space in a land fill. I remember seeing large displays of them at Tower Records on the Sunset strip, including a couple dozen Schifrin's. I have no idea how many of that one were actually made. However, 5 or 6 thousand can be a lot of units. By comparison, the 78 set "The Jazz Scene" appeared as a edition of 5,000 and one can see copies of that on e-bay at least once a month, perhaps more. Also, many of the selections in the Elite series appeared as reissues in Japan (although maybe not with bonus cuts). That includes the Lalo Schifrin, "Listen to Art Farmer" and the Clark Terry (just among the first ten). Konitz' Motion has been discussed. It is one of the only ones reissued domestically (and had been issued previously in Germany and Japan); however no other reissued had the extra two CD's worth of music. A great series that I am glad to see people continue to enjoy.

Get used to it. It's probable that these will be the last official CD issues of these albums ever. I am a bit skeptical of these types of predictions. Always,never and ever are a very long time! Suffice it to say it may be a while before we see these again. I have paid some handsome prices for those "rare issues" never to be seen again......never that is until they showed up as RVG's. Blue Note is pretty good at what they do and that certainly includes marketing. I second those thoughts; indeed looking at the above Avatar for "Lee Morgan Sextet" reminds me of when I ordered that and "Lee Morgan V. 3" through a Japanese bookstore (to order from Japan) about 15 years ago (pre-internet for me). I would get the Blue Note TOCJ's at Tower on Sunset when the 4000 series works appeared. Of course, nearly all of them were reissued in the US, even if it took a number of years. Now, whether one will ever see the Bethlehem Works series of 100 CD's ever reissued (other than gray market) is a different question. But Blue Note has such an appeal that I do not think those titles will stay dead.