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How would you rate this one against other later Cubers?

Just finished: Joe Maneri - Let The Horse Go Now on: Sir Roland Hanna - Maybeck Recital Hall Series Volume Thirty-Two

Just finished: Ernst-Ludwig Petrowsky - Selb-Dritt (FMP, 1981) Now on to: Shadow Vignettes - Birth of a Notion (Sessoms, 1985)

Globe Unity Special '75 - Rumbling (FMP 1991 / 1975) This has some of my favourite Mangelsdorff.

So good.

His books are great, but Forces of Motion is particularly good - it isn't by him but by a journalist, which helps to cut the heady stuff a little.

He he. I went back and re read it. Once the surprise at the terminology he uses had gone (so strange for someone who has spent so much of his career arriving at a personal language to describe his own music and ideology to pick those particular phrases), I think what Braxton's saying is probably broadly in line with what he says in some chapters of Forces in Motion. He isn't going to turn up in a red cap any time soon. The interviewer obviously sensed click bait where he had least expected and just dove right in.

Marion Brown - Duets (Arista, 1975). I’m not sure why Arista didn’t just call this a Leo Smith album, to be honest.

In case anyone’s missed it, there’s an interview with Braxton on the Grammy website, of all places. https://www.grammy.com/grammys/news/2021-anthony-braxton-interview-12-comp-zim-quartet-standards As with all Braxton interviews, it is unexpected reading. Not just because he claims his nickname among his friends is Anthony 'Simon and Garfunkel Boy' Braxton.

Some interesting looking stuff in here.

Hah, yes. I meant it semi seriously, but there was jazz talent in the group. I just love the look on Cherry Wainer's face when she is playing. Also, no tune gets the toddlers jumping faster (an important consideration for me at the moment). It beats even Jump In The Line by Harry Belafonte and the Peanut Vendor by Stan Kenton.

That makes sense. I have only heard him on the one record, so I am on the not-unattractive stage still.

Is there a wider British Jazz thread on this site? I have had a look and can't find. Despite being British and liking jazz, I actually don't know much about British jazz. What I know is confined to (i) the trad stuff that was always on TV back in the day and is basically a punchline for my parent's generation of jazz fans (Acker Bilk etc.), (ii) SME, Derek Bailey and co., (iii) the recent South London and Manchester stuff, and (iv) Hoots Mon. That's basically it though. Anything in between is a blank to me. The whole "prog" side of the jazz wars; the more normal side of the avant garde (Surman, Webster, Harriot, etc); the prog/fusion tie in stuff; I know nothing. It was only late in life that I even heard of the existence of Under Milk Wood. I am 99% sure that I am not even aware of the most basic classics.

I agree with you there, although I'm not always sure whether I prefer the Milestones to those later Blue Notes. Currently listening to: Dave Douglas Quintet - Meaning and Mystery (2006). Donny McCaslin, the tenor player on this, is good. I don't know anything else about him. I'd be interested in knowing if anyone has any opinions on his leader dates.

I think there are various covers, mostly showing iterations of the above photo. From discogs, it looks like the original may have been in a generic sleeve. Now onto: Terumasa Hinto Quintet - Into The Heaven (Takt, 1970)

SOUND ADVICE BY PAT PATRICK AND THE BARITONE SAXOPHONE RETINUE (SATURN, 1977) It's a fun approachable record, behind the murk and incredibly over-recorded percussion. It is an insight into the type of music Patrick was into when he first passed the threshold of the Arkestra: a sort of big band type music that was always at the heart of Sun Ra's own music, even if contorted into quite different forms. As is often the case, much as I love Sun Ra, I do wish his musicians had been allowed to record more.

Great stuff! Thanks. I am glad Elephants made the list.

Ha! Only just seen this. Spell check's still busy, protecting us whilst we sleep.

Thanks. Seems like an odd choice of a reissue, but I suppose Alive Coltrane is valuable property these days.

Is it standard ashram music? Or is there a specific Alice Coltrane slant?

Other Planes of There (Saturn, 1965) by Sun Ra

Luther Thomas Trio - Saxcrobatic Fanatic (CIMP, 1997).

Rudresh Mahanthappa and Steve Lehman - Dual Identity (Clean Feed, 2010)

Smiley Winters - Smiley Etc. (Arhoolie, 1969) With the superb Barbara Donald.

I didn't listen to it at the time, but I think it has aged okay. At least you get a sense that Osby understood hip hop and wasn't just making a play for credibility: there is a real attempt at fusion, even if it sometimes isn't as good as either genre. It helps that Osby is one of the few horn players who I think doesn't sound trapped by loops, and that the quality of the MCing and production is pretty high. I listened to that one yesterday. I enjoyed it more than his other recent albums.