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More Power - Dexter Gordon

Is this the new 4LP one? It looks good. How are the new discs? Only just got it.

Ginger Baker's Air Force (Polydor, 1970) Sounds great on the new system.

Just finished this one: The Jazz Composer's Orchestra - Communication (Fontana, 1965).

Jeremy Steig - Temple of Birth (Columbia, 1975)

Which would you start with?

How is this? We were talking about that record he did with Alan Silva a few weeks ago.

Helpful website. I like how Bossa sits outside the whole structure but controls it entirely, like the mythical Planet X warping Neptune’s orbit.

I’m desperately wracking my brain to see if I can identify a fourth kind of jazz. What is Now Sound?

As far as my collection goes, I divide jazz into two: “Nice” jazz and “Evil” jazz. Nice jazz is what is on the shelves that my wife could browse, put on, and be more or less happy. Evil is… the other stuff. Despite that, I do enjoy thinking in genres. Providing that genres are understood to not actually be real or concrete, they can be useful. The retrospective discovery of a genre, such as “rare groove” or “spiritual jazz” can help to move previously ignored (eg because not interesting when judged by the criteria of the time they were made) records into the forefront, as they are now judged by new and different criteria.

She prefers his earlier work on Arista?

Yeah. At 20:54. The recording also has an interesting introduction that explains how the music was obtained by the musician's "grandfather", presumably whilst explaining to a group of schoolchildren or students. That's been edited out for this comp, but is interesting in itself too.

ALso, perhaps Don Cherry’s flute playing? The track Amajelo from Mu 1 in particular has, to my ears, some very clear indigenous North American influences. It brings to my mind Belo Kozad’s famous Kiowa flute recording.

Yes, that's right. Solo and weird.

I don't know that one. I must check it out. Currently listening to Masahiko Togashi - Rings (East Wind, 1976) Having just finished all three volumes. of Cecil Taylor's Nuits de la Fondation Maeght

Richie Beirach Trio - Trust (Evidence, 1996) So good…

I've only read the Paris Transatlantic interview from a few years back, but Greene seemed pretty forgiving. It sounded like Baraka had himself dismissed the article as a youthful mistake and effectively apologised. I'm not sure how much of that is real on either side.

It's a pretty serious hit job. I always wondered whether something personal lay behind it. It's not like Greene was the most high profile white free jazz artist. Until I read that Nate Chinen piece, I actually had no idea that Burton Greene was on that Patty Waters album. It's an album I have lived with all my adult life, since before I even got into jazz. The brittle sounds of the strummed insides of the piano have really stuck with me through the decades.

A good article. I was surprised to see.on Twitter that Nate Chinen was tweeting about Greene, as I mistakenly assumed that he would not have been on his radar.

I read somewhere that Dave Brubeck was partially Native American, and/or that he identified as such, but looking at Wikipedia it looks like it may not be correct. Anyway, musical influence minimal.

Not the fourbass tubass quintet?

Great idea for a thread.

Ron Miles - I Am A Man (Yellowbird, 2017). First listen. I am surprised at how much I am enjoying this one. It's something to do with the mix of Ron Miles' cornet with Brian Blade's, Jason Moran's and Bill Frisell's quite different sensibilities, even though those three are not necessarily normally a "pull" for me.

Some interesting new releases on Ayler recently, according to Bandcamp.

This is sad news. Those ESPs are among my favourites. I have read a few interviews with him in the past and he didn't have an easy life, but there was a lovely quality to him (at least as he comes across on the page).