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Everything posted by Rabshakeh
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Taking advantage of the deafness, as advised.
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I asked him whether he enjoyed the record and he said it was brilliant because it was like when he plays guitar himself. Which i guess is fair. I'm afraid to say it was more about battling lego men than building. Those are such great records. Last one of the session: Sun Ra - Cosmic Tones End of session sadly. My deaf mother in law is with us for a week so opportunities to play music are pretty slim.
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Sorry to ask an idiotic question but is "Muzak" the same company as the piped music company of historic fame?
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Moyshe McStiff?
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They're all a bit ridiculous. This is the only one that I have hung on to
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Incredible String Band – The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter I'm reliably informed that this is the former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams's favourite album.
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What rock music are you listening to? Non-Jazz, Non-Classical.
Rabshakeh replied to EKE BBB's topic in Miscellaneous Music
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What rock music are you listening to? Non-Jazz, Non-Classical.
Rabshakeh replied to EKE BBB's topic in Miscellaneous Music
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Abdullah Ibraham - Mannenberg Basil Coetzee playing out three months of work insanity, and allowing for what I hope is a bit of respite.
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Sarathy Korwar – More Arriving Saw it in Rough Trade yesterday and realised I had never actually listened to this record, which is now 5 years old.
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This recent prompt reminds me that a lot of what I was saying about about Ramsey Lewis actually applies only to 1960s Ramsey Lewis records like The In Crowd. In London at least his 1970s records are comparatively well known. I think that's an effect of the rare groove and acid jazz scenes, and it reflects the fact that a record like Sun Goddess very much does lie on the line of enquiry for those kinds of music. I am not sure why I didn't make that clear above.
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Michel Portal · Léon Francioli · Pierre Favre – Arrivederci Le Chouartse Having just finished: The Ramsey Lewis Trio – Never On Sunday Some great playing with some horrible song choices. This one is my favourite of the Stepney's.
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I think that classic R&B and Jump Blues are maybe in a different category, which is more similar to the difficulties in accessing classic trad jazz or Dixieland. These genres are sufficiently different to "Jazz" as your average non jazz fan now pictures it that they are not really natural entry points for a first timer. But if you do specifically want to explore those genres, the more well known names are quite accessible. Beyond the Louis Jordans and Big Jay McNeelys, you maybe hit the problem that is frequent with Jukebox Genres in general where the focus is on occasional hit singles and careers are short and disposable by design.
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I don't think that the difficulties with retrospectively getting to know this music are "insurmountable". But the problem is that Gene Ammons and Ramsey Lewis are not located on any of the pathways of exploration laid out for further exploration. People getting into jazz who want to move past the big names have to know how to look. Typically this could be by looking for recommendations for the greatest jazz records, by learning from generalised jazz histories, or, in later stages, looking to find out more about a specific subject: Blue Note, spiritual jazz, free jazz, independent black jazz of the 1970s, jazz vocal records, ECM, soul jazz, great American songbook albums, exotica etc. Ramsey Lewis and Gene Ammons are not located on any of those pathways. They were never really critically acclaimed, so their records don't show up on top 100 lists. But, in contrast to other non-critically acclaimed areas of jazz (which in 2024 might include Stan Kenton's big band records, or smooth jazz), they are not in the history books, and there is not even a name for this genre for people to explore around. To be honest, I identified Ramsey Lewis and Gene Ammons myself only at the point that I had exhausted getting into jazz, and was starting to sniff around the less fashionable records that you see in discount bins. That's ridiculous in retrospect. I second the references to Ahmad Jamal as being in the same category as other artists in discussion here. Jamal of course benefits by the fact that the Miles Davis connection puts his name prominently into every jazz history book (similar to Cannonball Adderleys's outsized prominence in this area of jazz), and from the fact that some of his (circa 2024) most popular records are on Impulse! and have cool covers. Both of those factors do put Jamal on the pathway to discovery in a way that Ramsey Lewis is not. But I think that the pull factors for Jamal do apply equally to the likes of Ammons and Lewis, and the effect of Jamal's rising stature may well hold the key to increasing the prominence of the likes of Ammond, Lewis or Atlantic Ray Charles acolytes.
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It’s a good record. Electric groove stuff but with lots of variety in there.