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Dieb13 / Pure / Siewert – Just In Case You Are Bored. So Are We. Dieb13 / Pure / Siewert – Just In Case You Are Bored. So Are We.

I never really got into Mehldau. His reign seems a long time ago, now.

It is quite a weird topic for a thread. Lots of white alto players out there. Lots of black alto players too.

He's gone quiet over at his new home on substack, recently.

Not at all. But this is an area on which academic consensus is so clear that it is hardly worth debating. Those who claim that the first rock and roll record was actually 'Wig Wam Bam' by The Sweet are deluded in my view.

Rolls and honey and nothing else trumps honey and a honey dipper. Neither a work of beauty.

The first Rock and Roll record was 'We're Not Going to Take It', by Los Angeles-based band Twisted Sister. It is the first song to combine the core rock and roll genre characteristics of pouting, guitars and a music video where the dad gets beaten up. All other minds of music that preceded it are just pastoral shepherd flute music or Chinese opera.

Surely one of the worst album covers of all time.

Listening now. Really excellent

Thanks!

Which is that? The link doesn't work for me for some reason.

Was it good? I was weighing it up and plumped for the Vortex trip mainly because I so rarely go there now. You tipped me off to Arbenz I think, a year or so ago. Thank you for that. Half to hear that Sakata was good!

I guess a lot does depend on what you mean by rock and roll. Maybe it if you don't mean Bill Haley or Jerry Lee Lewis or Chuck Berry but instead mean the Rolling Stones. The Jim Dawson and Steve Propes book sounds really interesting. And a far more sensible approach to dealing with the question than any other that I could think of.

Maybe. That is closer to what my ears say. Although there's some complex musical DNA back there.

Bill Marx Trio - My Son The Folk Swinger

I never quite understood why Rocket 88 is considered early rock and roll. To my ears it sounds fairly squarely R&B. I guess the lyrics are about driving around getting teenage kicks.

I saw Palmer last year at Ronnie's and he was really good. Off to the Vortex this evening in Dalston to watch Florian Albenz featuring Greg Osby.

These are excellent points. I agree that Sun Ra is not properly speaking "spiritual jazz" at all, but I think that as used on social media and indeed by record labels these days, "spiritual jazz" means must about anything. What interests me is that, when those reissues did start in the 1990s, it was the 1960s records that got reissued first (or at least that attracted attention): Magic City, Atlantis, Heliocentric Worlds, etc.. Not Languidity or Disco 3000. Then I remember the surge of interest in the late 1990s and early 2000s when the 1950s records were re-released and people were confronted with a Sun Ra that was so much more accessible. But it still took a few years for those late 1970s records to come out.

John Edwards / Luis Vicente / Vasco Trilla – Choreography Of Fractures

What is the blog about? The Spanish jazz scene? Interesting stuff.

Armando Sciascia – Impressions In Rhythm & Sound The rare really really good Italian library record. (As opposed to merely good or tepid in a "why the hell are you all obsessing over this you clout-chasing freaks?!" way.)

Yeah. It was this stuff that struck a passing correspondence in head. Having reminded myself of what KP actually sounds like, that is really where the correspondence ends.

Similar gimmick actually but he's a weird lounge guy from the dawn of the 1950s. That record sounds like a travelogue record played through a music box, very much in the bad way.

Sun Ra – Concert For The Comet Kohoutek Korla Pandit – Latin Holiday

El'Zabar is putting serious time in for East London, it seems. He plays three or four times a year.