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I was thinking of them. A strange mixture of Roxy Music and jazz rock. I didn't know about the Lacy and Lytton connection.

This record is a weird one. Kraan is regarded as one of the jazzier German rock groups, but I could never really hear it. It is rock music to my ears. Having said that, it is good rock music. This live record is one of the greats. I like it a lot more than Embryo etc.

Don Cherry - Eternal Rhythm Decided to lose a Khan Jamal record Drum Dance To The Motherland which I never really listen to, so reputation restored

There's something happening here.

Orquesta Porfi Jimenez – Porfin Porfi The 1 year old is pretty taken with this one.

I missed the Herbie thing. Sounds undignified.

His Paul Horn flute record did eat a lot of jazz column inches, and he is headlining jazz festivals these days, so it does affect the likes of Iverson a bit, I guess. Probably more Kamasi Washington than Iverson, but that record has had a big impact on the kids. Probably not Shipp, so much, as you say, but then Shipp has strong ideas, particularly about piano, which don't stop at the merely musical, and I guess he finds Andre 3000 acting the piano dilettante to be offensive.

Fair dos. I have always had severe space issues and tend to panic if I have more than one record by the same artist, so I'm always interested in others' collecting habits.

Out of interest, why own this on five versions if you are comfortable with one particular version? Do the others have special bonus tracks or something?

I do find it a bit weird how the negative crits have focused on how he is "not a pianist" rather than that he can't play piano well or an interesting manner. Plenty of good piano jazz records out there by non-pianists (e.g. Mingus).

One thing that is interesting about these records is that they form such a strong cross-genre continuum. It isn't always easy to tell what's jazz rock and what's prog.

September – Zadnja Avantura A recommendation from the Euro Fusion thread.

Mind you, I would still take Andre 3000's anodyne piano music to the releases by other legacy hip hop artists this week...

It ends with a list of reviews from publications, all glowing, and then comments left on the YouTube video.

I haven't actually heard that one. It's on my to stream list.

That's right.

Please don't tell anyone. I have a reputation to keep up.

Enrico Rava Quintet – Tribe This one is a really great record. Rava really worked magic on ECM.

Andre 3000 is coming out with a piano record now. Matthew Shipp wrote a review on Facebook: "so a friend called me up and mentioned that Andre 3000 has a piano album out--i was like what. I checked it out on youtube -- my impression of it. I think it is complete and utter crap -horrific-god awful insipidly wretched nothing. oh my fucking god this is some atrocious shite --- is he some type of fucking asshole ? is he a complete and utter dilletante ? I could go into detail about why each cut is stillborn --but why bother --it does not even deserve the attention of a critique it is so dreadful. the guy is not a pianist -that is the beginning and the end of it ---what an ugly piano sound -- lets not even talk about telling a story with harmony ---sounds like he listens to a bunch of music gets a couple of gestures in his head sits down in a stream of consciousness and gets at some gesture for a few bars of something that he has not internalized -and barely knows on the most superficial level and then he loses the thread--of course there is zero composition going on in the improvisations --no language to speak of just a few cliches in his head that he can't actually play the cliche but he hits and tries at it until he peters out quickly --- wow -- he is so horrible at playing harmony --so many horn players that piano is not their instrument play so much better --- this sounds to me like pure fraud what a lack of respect for the discipline by someone who in my opinion is a complete asshole for doing this -- it is depressing that this garbage will get any attention because he has a name and fame --- there is nothing refreshing about the naivety of it --it is just downright dreadful and awful--true fucking crap insipidly wretched nothing -" It's a shame that he didn't say what he really thought of it. Hard to tell whether he liked it or not.

Derek And The Ruins (Derek Bailey, Masuda Ryuichi and Yoshida Tatsuya) – Saisoro A long time since I revisited this one (thanks to Tzadik now being on streaming services). Great record. One of Bailey's most successful of the later pairings.

That's an interesting combo of musicians.

Roscoe Mitchell - Old / Quartet I had this on the clear out pile, but I lost heart. It's just such a good record.

So where is Hazel Scott?

I can't find it. I've tried Google. What's the record?

There's the Borca connection again. I'm still meaning to check those records out. Is that her hooting away? What a great sounding recording.