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I wonder if it's even possible to nail this down? My guess is that it's a "both/and" thing; that it was all happening at the same time, or nearly the same time. At any rate, sounds like a fascinating study! All the best to you on it - quite a massive undertaking, no?

Allen, I like the idea very much and am wondering how - at this point - you see Tin Pan Alley factoring into it all?

Which is probably because the same 6-7 people are responsible for more than 90% of the posts in those forums. There's a lot of closed-mindedness, which makes it almost impossible to have a discussion with them.

Maybe so, but the board has gone to hell. Little to no moderator intervention for the most part (even when very much needed), then a lowering of the boom on people who disagree with Mike Ricci and/or some of the current denizens of the music theory and musician to musician sections of the board = disaster. And banning. Lots of banning. Now there's next to no discussion. It's a shame - but now that some time has elapsed since I was banned, I can see that there's little left to salvage.

(Good one, paps! )

I started turning to newspaper web sites in 2001, after somebody tipped me off to the existence of thepaperboy.com (An aggregator site that has links to newspaper websites from all over the world.) And immediately after 9/11, I mostly read UK-based news sources, like The Guardian and The Independent. (No subscription necessary, and far cheaper than trying to find - and buy - hard copies.) I love the fact that the New York Times is online (especially now that it's *free*), but... I really miss reading the actual paper. Still, when push comes to shove, it's far easier - and cheaper - to read it online. But: if I'm going to NYC for a weekend, I buy the paper ahead of time and make plans from there (for music, art galleries, etc.). As for what's been said about the sheer cost of paper, printing, etc. - I have no trouble believing that it's becoming more expensive by the day. But I vividly remember visiting my grandfather's office at the local paper here, and watching the Linotype operators, pressmen, etc. etc. It was exciting to be there, and my impression was that those folks took a great deal of pride in their work. All gone now...

Ditto for kicking back with the Sunday paper, passing the different sections around - reading the funnies, all of that. I won't regret losing all that paper, but I definitely will miss the recreational aspect of it all - reading papers online (which is what I've mostly been doing since 2001) just isn't the same.

Newspapers are invaluable for local news, especially for those who live outside of large urban/suburban areas. (Though I have to confess that the only reason i read The Washington Post is because it's D.C.'s local paper!) You know, it's very difficult to get *any* kind of high-speed internet access in a lot of rural areas - there have been some good articles about this recently on Lifehacker.com I know plenty of people who are on dial-up, and I really hope that my next move (early next year) will be to a neighborhood that's got high-speed access. You have to have some serious bandwidth and speed to read anything other than plain vanilla text online, and that's just not an option for many, many people. (As is, there's only 1 DSL carrier in my neck of the woods - that's a fairly literal description of my immediate locale, BTW. )

paps, I agree with you in general (on the financial aspects of newspapers), but can't imagine how most elderly people - and people who can't afford internet access - will get local news if small-town papers start going belly-up. There are so many people who either don't want to be "bothered" with computers, or feel confused by them. What happens to them when their daily print news sources start disappearing?

I like this one, too... although I'm not that fond of the song itself (fairly dull melody for Porter), so there you go.

hey, my apologies - I misread your comment.

I'm not surprised - it sounds as if they brought in the new editor to more or less clean house. As for axing jazz - and presumably other kinds - of reviews + the calendar, that's a very sad state of affairs. LA is major city, and there's so much happening in the arts in SoCal. all that to say that I disagree with you, MG. (BTW, it's nice to see you back here!)

Link to Don's new blog: http://irom.wordpress.com/ I'm very surprised by the opening post, but then, I was wondering why he was suddenly posting all his gig reviews on a blog...

Another great swing-style guitarist: Oscar Alemán. David Grisman reissued some of his recordings; you can get them on Emusic.com here's a clip: (No singing on the Grisman reissues, BTW!)

Absolutely! He and Elek Bacsik are new to me, and I've been enjoying their work a lot.

Christian Escoudé is a fave of mine - a very lyrical player who draws equally from Gypsy styles and jazz (pre-bop and bop).

I hear you - for me, it's particularly disappointing to have had this happen with an entire LP's-worth of Tadd's music.

Tadd Dameron's "The Magic Touch." Should have been great, judging from all those names. I guess it goes to show that even the best have their off days, just like the rest of us. Tadd Dameron Joe Wilder Clark Terry Ernie Royal Charlie Shavers Jimmy Cleveland Britt Woodman Julius Watkins Leo Wright Jerry Dodgion Jerome Richardson Johnny Griffin Tate Houston Bill Evans George Duvivier Ron Carter Philly Joe Jones

Very nice pics! woul love to see more... [hint, hint ]

Great discussion! I wrote my MA thesis on an artist (painter) from Washington, D.C. Given the connections between Howard U. and the Harlem Renaissance, I couldn't escape having to read some of Van Vechten's stuff. Let's just say that I was profoundly relieved that he stayed put in NY.

I'd also hazard a guess that access to public libraries (or lack of access, or lack of their existence) plays a big part in this as well.

From what little I know about the book market in Brazil, books are luxury items for most people who live there. I'd think that these stats (re. number of books/titles in print) would be interesting if compared with literacy rates for various continents and individual countries. As far as loading up on books when in the UK, I've done that, too - there are so many in-print titles that are completely n/a here, except (maybe) as high-priced imports.

I noticed that, too... A disclaimer and/or explanation would be very helpful things, especially given the fact that lots of Mosaic sets are sold to people in other countries who simply do not have the background (let alone context) to be able to get the subtle and not-so-subtle stuff that's going on in this song, with Mercer performing it, etc. etc. etc. And what might be perfectly obvious to some who post here is more than likely to be opaque at best to most other people who might encounter this song and others like it. Edited to add: forgot to check the dates for this thread before I posted - and i have no desire to drag up a discussion that's better left alone...

I've got a mild case of tinnitus, probably brought on as a side effect of a drug that I was given several years ago, during a nasty ear/sinus infection. The only time I'm really aware of it is in the winter, when the windows are closed... so far, no need for fans. But it sure would be nice to have it be gone for good.