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Excellent album.

And a lot of CD's.

Outstanding playing by Mr. Krystall. I don't get it why he's not better known.

I'll go. I am not concerned about Maneri as much as about Leandre's clownish tendencies that sometimes tend to overwhelm her performances. I saw here live a few times, always a bit of a disappointment.

Got this one and gave it a listen - great stuff. I might actually go see Maneri with Leandre and Cleaver in a week.

An old favorite:

Forgot this one: Spotify link: https://open.spotify.com/album/0SQOb1mBMDGNTQNzVVNEwL It's an orchestral piece that can be performed on its own or with improvisers. Here it's presented in three versions - with improvisers Axel Dörner & Paul Lovens, without improvisers, and with improvisers John Butcher & Thomas Lehn. All three versions are a great listen (the orchestra piece is a Scelsi-like thing with long long tones and slow development). I've been enjoying this one a lot, especially the demented Butcher / Lehn version. I wish there were more works for orchestras with improvisers. After all, that was the idea back in the 18th century, right?

By conservative you mean he does not do altissimo screaming that much? The stuff that tenor players have been doing for 50+ years? I'm listening to the 2019 eskelin / weber / griener release on Intakt, "the pearls". Half of the pieces are pre-war tunes, another half - free improvisations. Eskelin’s playing is just great. The sound, the logic, the ideas.... Perfect. Here's actually a modern tenor trio that is not retro - despite playing Jelly Roll Morton.

Not Ellery Eskelin? Btw, I remember chatting to Eskelin many years ago and he was very complimentary of Malaby. And does Jonathan Moritz still perform in New York?

Steve, we are just looking for different things in music, that's all. I am not particularly interested in, if I may quote you, "smoking burning hot". Of the ones you listed, McPhee-Edwards-Kugel is a good example of a waste of talent, IMHO (well, I would use "talent" when it comes to Kugel with reservations). I saw this trio live and left before the end of the set (and McPhee is one of my favorite musicians). I never liked Gayle (well, I thought he was moderately interesting on piano), even his supposed masterpiece "Touchin' on Trane" (anybody interested in my FMP CD copy?), so I am not going to investigate further. I don't like Malaby and Baars. I remmeber your mentiioning that Malaby has progressed a lot, I might check out some of his new stuff. I can't stand Evan Parker (his incontinent soprano playing at least - his tenor I like). Can't stand cliche-ridden Dunmall either (universally praised "Ghostly Thoughts" including). I can't imagine listening to Brötzmann these days (well, maybe the Berlin '71 concert and Last Exit and a couple of other albums). Laubrock is OK. Delius is good. Butcher is great. So we just have different musical preferences, not a big deal. To be fair, it is difficult to play anything innovative in free jazz context in a tenor-bass-drums trio. You might just as well expect innovation in baroque music. To comment on another thing you mentioned - "extended techniques". They are not a sign of "progress" or "innovation", and definitely not a sign of good music. I actually just returned from a classical concert where all the extended techniques imaginable were used (this stuff can now be notated, and is firmly incorporated in the vocabulary of modern composers and performers). The music was still shit.

Listened to it on Bandcamp (you can stream the whole album): https://nobusinessrecords.bandcamp.com/album/summer-bummer . I thought it was some pretty boring retro free jazz stuff. Bass and drums don't fit together that well, and the saxophonist (Amado) is very predictable. I liked the drummer the most, will check him out. I know the bassist, Gonçalo Almeida, and really like his more creative projects, like LAMA. He is an excellent musician, but in this trio he is selling himself short, IMHO.

Regarding George Coleman, this is an excellent album that I think was not mentioned: For jazzcorner, yes, this George Coleman hugging Idris Muhammad on the cover.

Yes, correct, George is gentlemen with the red tie in the video. This is what I was saying - here is a video of George Coleman in 1981. There are eight people in the octet, not all of them are George Coleman. The guy in your pictures is most definitely not George Coleman. I am not sure who that is - this would be a good trivia question. My guess it's Wilton 'Bogey' Gaynair:

Man, why do you keep insisting this is George Coleman on your photos? It's clearly not him. Here is a video of Coleman band in 1981:

The 2008 version remastered by Bernie Grundman using the original 1969 analog master (Zappa Records ZR 3841 - official release #8) The CD version available now (released in 2012) is the original mix: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B008BDZP3K/

Good idea, Bach, theorbo - will listen to this one. Enough of Bach cello suites.... oh, wait a second...

Well, it's either there are other ways to hear it or there aren't, it can't be both. And there are. Apparently, there is a live Hot Rats era box upcoming.

Returning to this one often. Great stuff!

Yes! Very enjoyable!

Did not like this one at all - full of St. Gerold's monastery (and ECM) reverb blurring the lines and with very harsh accents.

And there is are a couple versions on viola da spalla (shoulder cello) that are worth hearing - by Badiarov ( https://open.spotify.com/album/4v2K0kbhi3G2m3UqJ90utx ) and by Kuijken (https://open.spotify.com/album/45Lh2Ah0GsBaghbXCqZCIe). On this instrument it is more of a dance-able music.

Me too. I did not like it in the beginning, but grew to like it. It is now my go-to version. I heard a couple viola versions that I liked - a very light one by Gérard Caussé (https://open.spotify.com/album/0s9lOPriCKiHLvdmrwdpD8), and one with more gravitas by Patricia McCarty (https://open.spotify.com/album/6IIrFM4G7ULXcHzWsRFMHS). I heard the Fuchs version (once) and thought it was quite staid and devoid of joy.

Yes

Some of the albums recorded 2010 - 2019 I liked: https://darktree.bandcamp.com/album/pourtant-les-cimes-des-arbres https://www.nottwo.com/mw902 https://www.nottwo.com/mw925 http://www.ayler.com/daunik-lazro-some-other-zongs.html https://f-a-t-a-k-a.bandcamp.com/album/prediction-and-warning https://boris-hegenbart.bandcamp.com/releases http://www.ftarri.com/meenna/980/index.html https://newatlantisrecords.bandcamp.com/album/burning-in-water-drowning-in-flame https://pirecordings.com/albums/mise-en-abme/ https://mikroton.bandcamp.com/album/fracture-mechanics Plus Trio X live recordings on CIMPoL and Threadgill albums on Pi. There's been a lot of good stuff recorded, I still have a lot of catching up to do.