Dr. Rat

Well, Christ isn't a name, it's more like a soubriquet (sp?). Sort of like asking why Mohammed Ali insisted on being "THE Greatest." Unfortunately, we're no longer allowed to aspire to this soubriquet: NO one will ever be "The Carbondale Christ," for instance. --eric

Well, ok, maybe, but... My REAL point was that the "mystique" and the music are at some point, inextricably bound, that there's more to the "mystique" than a cleverly calculated manipulation of imagery and such, that there's a REAL basis for it (which is really pretty rare), and that that basis is one which leads to some pretty interesting, and deeply personal, places if you want to go there with it. I also find it interesting that Miles & Prez share many of the same qualities in their playing, but that nobody (these days anyway, t'wasn't always so) expresses reservations about them in Prez, which I think is a reflection of some folks' more "macho" conception of the "essence" of the trumpet's true "nature", as opposed to how the same people view the tenor. There's room in a lot of people's mind for qualities on some instruments that they don't care to hear on others. That, I find interesting for many reasons. But no satire intended, honestly! OK. I suppose I should take your word for it! Now, bringing in Lester actually sort of takes us away from the sexual end of things, because Lester's image in about as sexually ambiguous as Miles'. So it was some other issue that was crucial or sex in combination with something(s) else. You mention the trumpet vs. sax thing, and I think that probably accounts for some of the difefrences between waht we tend to think of Lester and what we tend to think of Miles. My idea now is that another part of it was Lester's unambiguous embrace of outsider status, and Miles' very, very ambiguous relationship with money, power and "the establishment" (which comes through both in his image and in his music--part of his drive to be musically significant was his refusal of the outsider role) that might be what really puts some folks off.

No one need speak for our world champeen poster, of course, and I do suppose we male posters ought to be somewhat abashed at how easily we fall into talk of sexual organs and boogers (see other thread) and such, but I think JSngry's point is that some of the reaction against Davis's sound is based on a sort of jazz fan's machismo and the sex-organ talk was intended as satire (with a bit of pure mischief thrown in for good measure). That's my read, anyhow, --eric

I am wondering whether "nyah nyah/ nyah-nyah nyah" is recognized universally as a taunt? Can I go to the wilds of New Guinea and thus mock a native of some hitherto undiscovered tribe when he spills his manioc root beer? --eric

C'mon! Where's the boogers? --eric

I don't have any Mosaics. The station has a few, but I don't find I'm drawn to them that often. I am not a completist, generally speaking. I would buy the Commodore set, and there's a few others I would probably spring for, but in many cases I feel the Mosaic sets are more than I need or want (every alternate take, etc.). Though the notes are great, and the overall feel of the product is lavish--makes you feel your money is well spent. But I'd rather dig through bins and find whatever I happen upon. More of an adventure that way. --eric

What do folks here think of Mr. Ratliff, anyhow? --eric

They don't need an autopsy, there are rapid method tests for this sort of thing. They probably detected negative cinematic reaction enzymes in her blood. You don't seriously think they would (even implicitly) blame the movie without direct evidence, do you? --eric

I managed to find a .pdf of it. Will read tonight. How's Firehouse Radio doing? I will definitely have a look for this. Thanks, --eric

My god! I think I agree with Chuck Nessa about something! Anyhow, I wonder: The autograph scores mentioned in the reposting--this is defintive evidence that Strayhorn composed these pieces? I seem to remeber that in the "composing on a train" scene in "The World of Duke Ellington" that Ellington might vocalize and edit music that Strayhorn would actually write. Don't have the book with me at the moment, though. --eric

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Where is this gig going to happen? --eric Eric, The 8:30pm concert is on March 3rd at Interlochen and I believe the concert will be in the chapel. Hope to see you there. Why doesn't anyone tell me these things. Thanks Randy. I'll try to get out before the stop having music at Interlochen, too. --eric

710.9 and more blood than the Passion of Christ. --eric

Where is this gig going to happen? --eric

But, from an objective standpoint, what else is there? You can't measure things like "emotional impact" objectively. That what makes these arguments both so much fun ... no wrong answers, lots of interesting comments. PS: Man in the High Castle is fantastic ... I wonder when they'll make a movie out of this. I was wondering what all this was about "Dick sucking" on this thread. I think that's an example of some fine writin' and keen social observatin' (not generally the sort of material Hollywood goes for). --eric

Yes, Egypt did seem to be quite a hotbead of religious dark alleys (meaning, religious thought that more or less went underground in later years.) The book I mentioned goes a little bit into the Egyptian origins of the gospel of John . . . I was curious to find out more about some of the different versions of Christianity floating around in Egypt. --eric

Instead of seeing the film, read "Who Wrote the Gospels," a fine book on the complex provenance of the Good Book. --eric

And no tits on the BABE thread! I'd rather see tits than this! Sorry. I had to look at it in my paper yesterday, so I figured it was OK to inflict it on you all. --eric

One the front page of the NYT arts section yesterday. Quarter page. Got in an argument with a couple of people in a bar about whether he is "flayed" or not. --eric

Do they comply with the RIAA curve? -eric

It's Philip Dick's Man in the High Castle. It's been on my mind a lot lately because of several discussions hereabouts. The science fiction posts just drove me over the edge. I'll edit so it's a bit bigger, --eric

I think 80 minutes is about the absolute limit for a standard audio cd, so I don't think anything beats that by much. --eric

Really? I thought prices on the CD had gone through the roof? Do you have any sources to get it at reasonable cost. If so, I'm there! --eric

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A few things I found in a quick search: Journal article of Cafe Society Josephson is Bob Brozman's uncle! Red-baiting (?) article from National Review --eric