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Elvin Jones Disk 6

TKM disc 1

Sent PM re: Dickerson.

Dusty Groove had Love Cry Want a while back.

For $27.50, I will package up the mousepad used to facilitate the on-line purchase of the Elvin Jones Mosaic. As an extra bonus, the Dizzy Reese Mosaic Select was ordered at the same time. The mouse itself is far too valuable to sell, but I may be able to lift the appropriate fingerprint using adhesive tape. For security purposes, I can only sell the last 25% of the fingerprint, but that would be an additional $5 -- a steal in today's marketplace.

(From the Artists thread: "BTW, his Vanguard recordings are nice as well. Maybe not as good as his Blue Note trio dates with Joe Farrell (my favorites!), but they are well worth a spin.") This isn't about the Mosaic set per se, but about the Elvin Jones shows at the Vanguard. I think there is one legitimate release on Enja and then the four Skyscraper albums on Honeydew. I have the first, but haven't tracked down the others yet. First question is if they are legitimate or bootlegs. Second is if 2-4 are worth acquiring. Third, is there anyway to promote the idea that the live sets at the Vanguard become a Mosaic Select -- after all Elvin was technically under contract to BN at the time, right? (just dreaming probably). Anyway, I do have the Elvin Jones Mosaic and enjoy it greatly. I am about to spin discs 1 and 2.

He and Johnny Griffin have a good duet album titled In & Out, which came out in 2000.

I have Trinitaires on CD. I can't remember right now where I got it, probably an import through Amazon. I like it, though not as much as his classic BN sessions or Beautiful Day for that matter.

It sort of looks like he is channeling Mingus in the cover photo. I do think it is a good album with strong ensemble work, even though I have not heard of any of them previously.

Perhaps you recall the thread about how United (and probably the other airlines) very rarely play the jazz channel anymore, replacing it with voice from the cockpit. Fortunately on my last long trip, I was able to listen to the jazz channel (after the batteries in my laptop had run down and I couldn't listen to my own music!). Anyway, one of the tracks was "Black Orchid" off a CD of the same title by Al McKibbon. I was really taken with it, and just bought the CD. It came out in 2003, but didn't seem to get a lot of coverage, or at least I missed it. It seems to retail for $10 at most on-line stores. I think it is a very good CD with a range of styles, and only a few tracks that would be classified as latin jazz. There are two songs written by Strayhorn -- UMMG and Isfahan, as well as Weston's Little Niles. I'm just spinning it a second time, and am forming my impressions, but I would recommend this. In general there is a mellow vibe, but some really funky tracks, especially the last one. Most songs also have flute prominently in the mix, in case you look for that or look to avoid it. Does anyone else have this CD, and what do you think?

Well, I'll 'fess up, I bought a set based on the first post and the comments back and forth. I have probably 1/3 of the music as individual CDs, but it sounded like a pretty good deal, especially since I could get the better liner notes (thanks couw!). No question that this forum is hard on the wallet. Recently I got Ranelin's Vibes from the Tribe, which I like, and just ordered Whitaker's Black Renaissance based on forum comments. So far I haven't been disappointed.

This is somewhat speculative, but according to an interview of Prince (the rock star) posted on the CNN website today, he indicated that he is working with major labels again. Then he said he might do an instrumental album on Blue Note. I guess it wouldn't be that surprising, given the Van Morrison album, but it still struck me as an unusual pairing. Who here buys everything on BN, and would you buy Prince just because he was on the label? I should say that I think he is a good musician, but I wouldn't consider him a jazz musician.

Thanks. I'll definitely get it this summer then. I'd say my favorite Tyner on Blue Note is The Real McCoy, but perhaps this will change my mind.

That sounds like the right set. I also imported it from Amazon.fr, but be warned, it took well over a month to arrive (I think it was six weeks). I had given up hope and was seriously debating hashing it out with my credit card company as lost property when it finally arrived. There are some great CDs there though, which made it all worth it. I thought the Byas (78), Cootie Williams (101) and Jazz and Cinema 4 (98) were particularly noteworthy.

I believe I have seen Night of the Cookers surfacing as a Spanish BN (with the blue cover) and that was one CD. Of course if it is RVG, then there may be extra tracks to push it to two CDs. I have most of this music already so probably will not upgrade, though maybe Black Fire would be worth it, but I don't have Tyner's Tender Moments. Any thoughts on this one? I do like the song Man From Tanganyika, which is on various compilations.

I like the album too. I thought Grand Unification Theory was admirably ambitious, but Harris himself sometimes got lost in the mix. He is featured more on Evolution. I liked the fact that there was a range of styles and tempos in the pieces. I haven't seen him lead a group live, though I've seen him in supporting roles. I may have to drive to Kalamazoo, since the tour is skipping Chicago!

I think it is perfectly reasonable for Hancock and Shorter to want to do something new and not the classics. I do think they should have played pieces that were shorter and somewhat more uptempo. On the way out, a number of people commented that they had simply fallen asleep. But yes, you could barely hear the saxophones. And Thomas really was a major come-down. For a long stretch during the Dolphin Dance Suite Shorter and Thomas were playing off each other - I think as short as one bar solo stretches - but Thomas was just so boring that this did not work at all. More traditional four bars back and forth might have allowed Shorter more room to do something interesting. I'm going to go read the Tribune review now and see if we were even at the same concert.

I just saw Herbie Hancock with Wayne Shorter here at the CSO. I see a few people either saw the show or saw a previous show by the touring group. I would be curious as to reactions. My expectations were high, and I was very disappointed. I thought Herbie played well, but really didn't think the interactions between the rest of the group were memorable at all. A number of people left during the very, very extended Dolphin Dance Suite (can't say I blamed them). And then even more left when it became apparent that the Hancock/Shorter duet was another slow piece. I was completely underwhelmed by the interplay between Shorter and Gary Thomas, which just didn't seem to go anywhere. In general, I felt Thomas was just noodling around and not making any interesting statements. The only piece that really caught fire was the final piece (before the encore) which was a Headhunters piece that led into Footprints. Of course, not everyone will agree. Still, I would classify this as one of the ten worst live shows I have ever seen. And another worst at the CSO was the Ornette Coleman show last year. I will probably pass on seeing jazz at the CSO from now on, since there is just not enough "fire" and/or interaction with the audience compared to the Chicago JazzFest or the club scene.

I think I will make the show, though I will have my attention divided between the concert and working on/thinking about an academic paper. I'll be wearing black slacks and a purple shirt if you want to say Hi. Eric

Just thought I would put in a good word for Hal. I ordered 11 items, mostly loose CDs as well as the Duke Ellington/Ella Fitzgerald Complete Cote D'Azur concerts. The CDs are all in excellent shape, and the shipping was very fast. This really was quite a collection. Eric

I don't know if these are the same DVDs from the Village Vanguard, but they probably are. Perhaps waiting until the end of the month would be worth the much lower price at Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detai...876958?v=glance

Found the Chambers and Moncur sets used so I snatched those up. The last full box set was Horace Parlan. Will probably get Elvin Jones in the spring/summer.

An advance copy turned up at a local record store, so I picked it up. This actually was not an easy decision, since I already had Time Out, Time Further Out and Time In on CD, and Time Changes on LP. In terms of bonus material, Time Out has no extra tracks. Time Further Out has Slow and Easy (3:29) and It's a Raggy Waltz (live) (6:37). This is identical to the existing remastered CD. Countdown has one extra track: Fatha (3:47) Time Changes has one extra track: Theme from Elementals (3:06) Time In has three bonus tracks which were not on my imported CD Rude Old Man (2:22) Who Said That (3:32) Watusi Drums (2:23)

I agree; there are many OOP albums (already released on CD) I would like to own. Mostly BN artists such as Hill, Hutcherson and Moncur come to mind. While it is more acceptable to chase these down on Ebay, than, saying trading MP3s, buying used CDs doesn't send any money to the labels or the artists.

I recall seeing a used copy at Jazz Record Mart in Chicago. That would have been a couple of weeks ago, so it might not be there any longer. You probably can order from them directly, though in a pinch I could help out. Eric