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I've got a pretty decent collection of OJCs, but I'll definitely be adding a few more. Maybe I'll make two lists -- OJCs I absolutely must have, and OJCs I'd like if they drop the price when they dump the stock. I have been trying to get Land's The Fox at a decent price for a few weeks now, which reminds me that I do have a Borders coupon ... Anyway, of the Tyners, I am partial to Song of the New World and Song for My Lady. Sure hope these don't go out of print. No one has mentioned Mal Waldron's Mal 1-4. I think Blue Mitchell's Out of the Blue is still the most impressive first album I've run across. Just a great line up (Art Blakey, Wynton Kelly, Benny Golson, Paul Chambers and Sam Jones). George Russell's Ezz-thetics. This one might be safe since it has Eric Dolphy on it. I guess none of these are on Fantasy proper, but to be on the safe side ...

Ubu: Sorry for the delay. This link talks about the series in a bit more detail. Outnational Meltdown page If you keep clicking through, you get to a place where you can order the entire set for 220 Rand. No idea if they ship to Europe, or if you'd ever see this. There are other places to order this. Half.com for instance has them for under $15 each, though getting them shipped might be a pain. I can't find Jazzin Universally right now, which I like a bit better. But I am listening to Free at Last. The first track has Moses Molelekwa on piano. He is very good. There is a heavy electric bass riff that is funky but a little repetitive over 7 minutes. There are also horns that come in, and lyrics in an African tongue. Airto Moreira on percussion. Definitely a great track. Track 2 starts with bird calls and chants. There are 4 marima players, and I'm pretty sure I heard a cowbell (probably Airto). It appears that Airto is on nearly all tracks. It's really too bad the piano player isn't more involved. I think he is more involved on Jazzin Universally. He actually passed away a few years ago, but his work is worth seeking out. Track 3 is more guitar and vocal heavy. The guitar part sounds almost like bluegrass. I'm not crazy about track 4 but it does have didgeridoo on it, which counts for something. Track 5 is a bit slower, with bass and another string instrument playing off each other. According to the liner, there are 4 maribas here too, but I don't here them. About halfway through the song, it picks up, trumpet is added and I guess the maribas come in. It sounds a bit like an outtake from Paul Simon's Graceland album. Track 6 starts with a female chorus (most of the vocals up to now have only been male). Oh, there is a male voice blending in. This is a stripped down song, with vocals, wood block and conga. Track 7 is back to funky with 8 string bass and two guitars. It gets kind of busy towards the end as everyone adds their voice or instrument. It's still good though. It's basically a 15 minute jam. You'd probably like it. I think it is a bit deeper than the Africa Straight Ahead album.

Etherbored: You may have missed this from a much earlier thread, but CDs 76-101 in the series came out as a 4th box (sold individually). I haven't found any in the US, though some people may have seen them in NY or SF. I imported a set off amazon.fr, and it took forever, but it made it. If you sprung for the first (bigger) box, you might want to look into this too. Among other great material, there's a good Don Byas disc (78), Guy Viseur (88), Jazz and Cinema #4 (98), Jazz under the Occupation (really interesting) (100) and Joe Newman and Cootie Williams (101). Eric

I also like Rites of Passage. One album not mentioned in this thread, or I just missed it is New Wine in Old Bottles. Very nice date from 1978 (actually I think this was the album right before the disastrous Monuments). Hank Jones on piano, Ron Carter on bass, and Tony Williams on drums. It is on Inner City Records, licensed from East West. I don't believe this ever made it to CD (in the US anyway), which is a shame. They revisit two McLean songs -- Appointment in Ghana Again and Little Melonae Again, plus Confirmation and a stretched out Round Midnight, plus two other tracks.

They do have one of the big 75 CD Jazz in Paris boxes in store, or at least they did a couple weeks ago. They never did get the follow-up box though. I did manage to track down Broken Wing, but not in a regular store ... and not on the streets of NYC either.

Great photo! It looks like Benny is going to be back at the Showcase in Chicago in another week or so. I will try to make one of the dates.

I had a friend recently get back from South Africa. She brought back a few choice CDs, including something by Moses Molelekwa (can't recall the title now). Based on that, I discovered a 3 CD set (also sold as individual CDs) called Outernational Meltdown (on B & W Music). I managed to get vol. 1 and 3 for not too much through half.com, so you could keep an eye out for them. The actual titles are: Vol 1 - Free at Last Vol 2 - Healer's Brew Vol 3 - Jazzin' Universally Eric

Definitely the worst album done by Jackie McLean is Monuments. I think AMG says something like this album caused Jackie to stop recording for 10 years. It's really something. It's sort of a disco-jazz-fusion thing. Most astonishing is that according to the liner, all the music was written and arranged by Mitch Farber, whoever he was. I guess I got it 'cause it was cheap and I wondered just how bad it was. It is bad, though it is still better than Sonny Rollins' Solo Album (this was discussed on another thread). The most amusing thing is the price history on the stickers. Most of the vinyl I get went to the cut-out bins, and then someone turns around and sells it for $15-25. In this case, someone tried to get $40 for it, before it ended up in the shop where I got it for $6 (and even that was a bit much). Eric

I guess it depend on who "we" is. The corporations have no interest in this public domain concept, and while the Supremes gave lip service to it, they did nothing when Congress extended copyright well beyond a reasonable limit. I'm sad to say that we'll probably all be dead before Mickey Mouse (to give the most notorious example) goes into PD. And I don't give a rat's ass about Mickey Mouse, but because of Disney, so much else has been shelved because it isn't worth it for the copyright owners to do anything with it, but by god, no one else can either.

Sal: I've got the Reece, and it is great. Personally, that would be the one I'd go for. I'm still debating the Pullen, since I have most of the material already. But I completely forgot about the Gordon. That might make a good request. Eric P.S. Don't wait too long on the Parlan.

I was thinking of asking for the Roach Mosaic but money's a bit too tight for that. It's really too bad that the Hill and Pepper aren't ready for the holidays, since either would be about the right size gift request. And there's no way I can hold off on the Hill Select until my birthday! (Maybe I can hold off on the Pepper.)

Brownie: My French is so rusty. Maybe you can enlighten me (us). These box sets are pulled from the material in the enormous Jazz in Paris sets, or this is something not released as part of those 101 CDs? How does the Belgium set fit in -- Belgian artists but recorded in Paris, aside from the additional Django material? Thanks. Eric

In the spirit of cooperation and all that, I should mention that Dustygroove currently has several hard to find Hutcherson LPs, including Waiting and The View from Inside.

Yeah, I just noticed this myself. Had I known, I would have waited a week to post my question. Ah well. There's a good chance that the reserve is higher than I want to go anyway, but I guess we'll find out.

As mentioned on a different thread, Hutcherson's Inner Glow is extremely hard to find. I really hope that it sees the light of day either as part of a Mosaic Hutcherson set or maybe as a Gale release. I've managed to track down nearly all the other Hutcherson's on LP. My question is whether two tracks reportedly on Inner Glow are the same as the ones on Waiting, or are these different versions? One track is Roses Poses and the other is Searchin' the Trane. If they are the same, then a Waiting/Inner Glow release would be most welcome. Anyone, anyone. Actually getting the material in any form would be most welcome, and if Blue Note or Mosaic isn't planning on releasing Cirrus, Lingus Lane, Waiting, etc. then we should lobby someone to license it, and perhaps that would be Gale. Eric

At least one of the sessions -- and I think both -- on Turrentine's New Time Shuffle was recorded by RVG. This is an interesting big band session led by Turrentine. It might work better as a Conn though. The material could then be paired with the first disc from the 2-LP Best of Turrentine. One session was largely the compositions of Jobim and one was originals and standards. As far as I can see, only one track has come out on CD, and that was the Blue Note Plays Jobim compilation.

There are at least two other Hutcherson-Land collaborations not mentioned so far (or I missed them in the thread). Neither is out on CD though (again, as far as I know, but I certainly don't think so). Hutcherson is the leader on Cirrus (Blue Note), and Land is the leader on Choma (Burn), which actually I like better. I keep meaning to pick up the Fox, but haven't so far.

Fair enough. That sounds like a great idea, maybe a Conn for 2006.

Just two quick questions. I have the 2 LP set of Jacknife and a few others in the BN Re-issue series. How does the CD version compare to the LP, better, worse, about the same? I never bothered getting the CD. Second, there was an entire album left off when the CD was issued. Any ideas why, since it appears that nearly the entire thing would have fit. For instance, when Vertigo came out, it had one of the sessions from the Hipnosis 2-fer. I'm enjoying rediscovering this music, but I think it is a shame that some of it still hasn't been issued on CD, if you don't count the Mosaic set. Eric

Actually my wife asked me about the Sprewell suspension, and that was for 68 games, basically it was for the rest of the season at that point in time, so in fact, the two suspensions are basically equivalent. I guess we can argue all night about whether it is worse to attack the coach (undermining authority) or the fans (biting the hand that feeds you). It was sickening all the way around. The next question is, assuming that Stern is able to make these suspensions stick and Artest doesn't find an accomodating judge to overturn his suspension (Sprewell was never able to get his suspension overturned though he tried a few times), is any team going to trade for Artest. Indiana appears to be through with Artest. Despite the fact he has four years on his contract, I would be very suprised if the Pacers can't find some term in his contract that he violated to turn him loose if no one else will take him.

It's the title of a book by Milt Rakove, who claimed he heard this when he tried to volunteer for a political campaign (not that that doesn't mean it didn't come from Capone originally). He couldn't break into the system without having someone to vouch for him, maybe not so different from here.

Price reductions and new items, include Dexter Gordon and Ornette Coleman

At the very least, we need some disclaimer like "We don't want nobody that nobody sent" (a classic quote from Chicago politics) so that new members will realize it is best to build up some cred before trying to sell here, just so that we don't go through this every time. Of course, negative comments are appropriate if you are pretty sure someone is shady or a scammer.

I honestly don't mind newbies posting in this forum first, but there does seem to be such a to-do about it, that maybe some guidelines are appropriate - 10 posts in other forums, post a jpeg of your subscription to some jazz rag, a note from your mother, whatever.

Oops. These are reissues from 1982 according to AMG. The two standards CDs were recorded in 2002, however, so are basically still new releases. Review for Brother Jones: This out-of-print album is very much a showcase for saxophonist Pat LaBarbera, who doubles on tenor and soprano, for he also contributed five of the eight selections. With drummer Elvin Jones, pianist Kenny Kirkland and bassist Reggie Workman forming a formidable rhythm section, LaBarbera is heard throughout in fine form, playing in a style strongly influenced by (but not derivative of) John Coltrane. Unfortunately, this high-quality hard bop set will be difficult to find. This is much more informative (and tempting) than what is on Amazon. There are a number of used copies floating around on their site, so perhaps I shall grab one.