kh1958 Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 I've never heard (nor seen) any of these Max Roach with Billy Harper records. The two main memories of my one time seeing Max Roach in person (with Odean Pope, Tyrone Brown and Cecil Bridgewater) are of Max playing a solo history of jazz drums piece, and a nearly hour long version of Scott Free that was devastating. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 7, 2019 Report Posted October 7, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, kh1958 said: I've never heard (nor seen) any of these Max Roach with Billy Harper records. Here's Live in Tokyo, Vols. 1 & 2 on YT: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyHn3f7-9IUIUnMFVjF5HIkLd11FvuxPE Max Roach - drums Billy Harper - ts Cecil Bridgewater - tpt Reggie Workman - bass Rec.Yubin Chokin Hall, Tokyo, Japan, 21/01/1977 Denon C38-7006 Currently, not available anywhere -- even as a download! Unless you pay $50 each for the two LPs, like Pim did. Edited October 7, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 I think I have all or nearly all Soul Note Albums, but it´s really a shame that the band with Billy Harper was recorded only for quite shortlived labels. I say, Max Roach is one of the most important musicians from the generation that created "modern jazz". How many Bird, Bud, Diz, Mingus CD´s are available, and how little of Max Roach´s work is available. I didn´t know Max Roach was difficult to deal with. On stage I always had the impression he was very very articulate, very gentleman-like and very nice to the audience, that´s how I remember him on stage. About the "second" quartet , I mean when Harper and Workman were replaced by Odean Pope and Calvin Hill, well I also enjoyed that but I didn´t like Odean Pope´s Sound so much as I liked Billy Harper. And Maybe Calvin Hill used another bass amp, but his bass sound was not the same like Reggie Workman, it sounded more amplified. Quote
BillF Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 55 minutes ago, Gheorghe said: I think I have all or nearly all Soul Note Albums, but it´s really a shame that the band with Billy Harper was recorded only for quite shortlived labels. I say, Max Roach is one of the most important musicians from the generation that created "modern jazz". How many Bird, Bud, Diz, Mingus CD´s are available, and how little of Max Roach´s work is available. I didn´t know Max Roach was difficult to deal with. On stage I always had the impression he was very very articulate, very gentleman-like and very nice to the audience, that´s how I remember him on stage. About the "second" quartet , I mean when Harper and Workman were replaced by Odean Pope and Calvin Hill, well I also enjoyed that but I didn´t like Odean Pope´s Sound so much as I liked Billy Harper. And Maybe Calvin Hill used another bass amp, but his bass sound was not the same like Reggie Workman, it sounded more amplified. Yes, Roach was very articulate on the one occasion I saw him (around 1968). I'm not so sure about "nice to audience" though. He asked the English audience the politically/historically embarrassing question of why the members of his band (Tolliver, Pope, Cowell, Merritt) all had "good old English names". Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, BillF said: Yes, Roach was very articulate on the one occasion I saw him (around 1968). I'm not so sure about "nice to audience" though. He asked the English audience the politically/historically embarrassing question of why the members of his band (Tolliver, Pope, Cowell, Merritt) all had "good old English names". I have heard about that question why the bandmembers had "good old English names", embarrassing indeed ! Well, anyway, 1968 must have been a rough year. I´m too young, in 1968 I was 9 years old. I saw Roach twice , in 1978 and 1980. On the second occasion, Roach made the stage announcements in German language, much to the surprise of the audience. Quote
soulpope Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Gheorghe said: And Maybe Calvin Hill used another bass amp, but his bass sound was not the same like Reggie Workman, it sounded more amplified. Calvin Hill was no match for Reggie Workman, though a good bass player .... Quote
Pim Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 19 hours ago, HutchFan said: Unless you pay $50 each for the two LPs, like Pim did. Nah that was 50 for the both incl shipping. Not bad eh? Quote
soulpope Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, Pim said: Nah that was 50 for the both incl shipping. Not bad eh? A pittance .... Quote
HutchFan Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pim said: Nah that was 50 for the both incl shipping. Not bad eh? Not bad at ALL!!! $25 each from JPN is a steal. 1 hour ago, soulpope said: A pittance .... Indeed. Especially when we're talking about THAT music. Now giving this new-to-me LP another spin: Edited October 8, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
HutchFan Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 Junior Cook - Pressure Cooker (Affinity, rec. 1977) with Mickey Tucker, Cecil McBee (or Juini Booth on two cuts), and Leroy Williams Quote
HutchFan Posted October 8, 2019 Report Posted October 8, 2019 (edited) François Jeanneau - Techniques douces (Owl, 1976) with Michel Graillier, Jean-François Jenny-Clark, and Aldo Romano Edited October 8, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
sidewinder Posted October 9, 2019 Report Posted October 9, 2019 6 hours ago, HutchFan said: Junior Cook - Pressure Cooker (Affinity, rec. 1977) with Mickey Tucker, Cecil McBee (or Juini Booth on two cuts), and Leroy Williams Blast from the past - a common sight in the racks, back in the day. Quote
soulpope Posted October 9, 2019 Report Posted October 9, 2019 6 hours ago, HutchFan said: François Jeanneau - Techniques douces (Owl, 1976) with Michel Graillier, Jean-François Jenny-Clark, and Aldo Romano 👍! Quote
Gheorghe Posted October 9, 2019 Report Posted October 9, 2019 1 hour ago, sidewinder said: Blast from the past - a common sight in the racks, back in the day. Inspired by the album cover, another Affinity Thing: The Wynton Kelly Trio with George Coleman. Recorded About 1968/69. Ron McLure had replaced Paul Chambers. I remember Ron McLure very well as a very very fine bass Player: I heard him a fantastic group Dave Liebman had around 1980: Ron McLure was on bass, Terumaso Hino was on trumpet, John Scofield was on guitar. It was young John Scofield who helped me to "meet Dave Liebman". John Scofield was fantastic but still not as well known as he was a few years later. I had been Aware of him since he had recorded with Mingus (then recently). 3 Years later I hear that he joined the Miles Davis Group. I thought "Incredible", THE JOHN SCOFIELD, the guy who led my way to "meet Dave Liebman" Quote
sidewinder Posted October 12, 2019 Report Posted October 12, 2019 Wonderful band, wonderful album. Japanese New Jazz. On 09/10/2019 at 7:38 AM, Gheorghe said: Inspired by the album cover, another Affinity Thing: The Wynton Kelly Trio with George Coleman. Recorded About 1968/69. Ron McLure had replaced Paul Chambers. I remember Ron McLure very well as a very very fine bass Player: I heard him a fantastic group Dave Liebman had around 1980: Ron McLure was on bass, Terumaso Hino was on trumpet, John Scofield was on guitar. It was young John Scofield who helped me to "meet Dave Liebman". John Scofield was fantastic but still not as well known as he was a few years later. I had been Aware of him since he had recorded with Mingus (then recently). 3 Years later I hear that he joined the Miles Davis Group. I thought "Incredible", THE JOHN SCOFIELD, the guy who led my way to "meet Dave Liebman" Yep, McLure is really excellent. Have only seen him the once, in an Adderley tribute band which had George Duke and Lenny White. Uptown LP Quote
soulpope Posted October 12, 2019 Report Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, sidewinder said: SABA stereo version Very nice cover art .... Quote
sidewinder Posted October 12, 2019 Report Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) I agree - cover photo credited to noted photographer Chargesheimer. Fantastic pressing too - can’t go wrong with SABA. Edited October 12, 2019 by sidewinder Quote
soulpope Posted October 12, 2019 Report Posted October 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, sidewinder said: German Vogue The nine fabulous "Piano Trio only" tracks aka Francy Boland + Jimmy Woode + Kenny Clarke are also assembled here .... : Quote
sidewinder Posted October 12, 2019 Report Posted October 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, soulpope said: The nine fabulous "Piano Trio only" tracks aka Francy Boland + Jimmy Woode + Kenny Clarke are also assembled here .... : Still not picked up that one on Rearward but the sonics on the Vogue are great and I really like the tracks with strings + Herb Geller. A very enjoyable 2LP set, all in all ! Quote
soulpope Posted October 12, 2019 Report Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, sidewinder said: Still not picked up that one on Rearward but the sonics on the Vogue are great and I really like the tracks with strings + Herb Geller. A very enjoyable 2LP set, all in all ! Agree on the vinyl sonics ....but do like the separation of the "Piano Trio tracks" .... best to have both editions .... Quote
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