Peter Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 There's a good reason why 5/8/77 has never been released as a DP. It's not in the Vault. 5/8/77 is part of a cache of tapes know as the " Betty Boards". "Betty" is Betty Cantor-Jackson who was a member of the Dead's sound crew. She made some wonderful recordings. Anyway, the story that I heard was that she had a bad coke addiction going on and was fired by the band in the mid 80's. Apparently she was in posession of a number of shows that she had recorded. This was back in day before Dick decided organize the Dead's vast concert tapes to create "The Vault". Anyway, she was evicted from her apartment and she put her stuff/tapes into storage. When she stopped paying for storage her belongings were sold at auction. Many Betty Boards are available for download at: http://forums.etree.org/viewtopic.php?t=6649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted April 27, 2007 Report Share Posted April 27, 2007 (edited) It is amazing that they still refuse to release the 5/8/77 concert commerically. The soundboard is excellent. There is absolutely no reason not to do it. Of course, it shouldn't be called a "Dick's Pick," given the fact that Dick considered the concert too overrated for release (but at the same time proposed that the version of Morning Dew is the greatest of all time). There's a good reason why 5/8/77 has never been released as a DP. It's not in the Vault. 5/8/77 is part of a cache of tapes know as the " Betty Boards". "Betty" is Betty Cantor-Jackson who was a member of the Dead's sound crew. She made some wonderful recordings. Anyway, the story that I heard was that she had a bad coke addiction going on and was fired by the band in the mid 80's. Apparently she was in posession of a number of shows that she had recorded. This was back in day before Dick decided organize the Dead's vast concert tapes to create "The Vault". Anyway, she was evicted from her apartment and she put her stuff/tapes into storage. When she stopped paying for storage her belongings were sold at auction. http://www.nii.net/~obie1/deadcd/betty_board_info.htm Also, IIRC... there are two nasty cuts that need to be patched. Interesting. I didn't realize that. On the other hand, it would seem a rather easy task to find a good sound source for a legitmate release that patches up what needs to be patched. If Betty had copyright, that would be a different matter. Edited April 27, 2007 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/p...p;iSaleNo=15537 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted May 6, 2007 Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 http://www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/p...p;iSaleNo=15537 Thanks for posting that. Fascinating stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2007 That Irwin guitar. . . wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted May 7, 2007 Report Share Posted May 7, 2007 here we go: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?sk...&id=1642798 No other info at this time--although several posters at other sites picked up one of my sarcastic posts and mistook it for real, attributing it to Rhino!: This is in a forum at Jerome's "Rhino posted this on their web site this morning: Grateful Dead: Three From the Vault. This release will be a departure from the previous two releases in that it will feature the artistry of the lateRon McKernan, a.k.a. Pigpen. Pig was for a time the true leader of the Grateful Dead, and we feel a collection of his best work is long overdue. Included in this special boxed set--which will come with a 20 page booklet from Dennis McNally, will be such tunes as Bobby Bland's "Turn On Your Lovelight," the late James Brown's "It's a Man's, Man's World," Lightnin' Hopkins' "She's Mine" and "Katie May," The Coasters' hit, "Searchin," Jimmy Reed's "Big Boss Man," "Good Lovin,'" and "In the Midnight Hour." There will be a bonus disc entitled "Yentle Pig" which will contain snippets of the Reverend Ron's various marriage ceremonies and hook ups live on stage." The link doesn't appear to be there now though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 Bob Weir interviewed, and looks like a lot of bits about the Dead upcoming on the CBS Sunday show this morning, probably in about 20 to 30 minutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted June 3, 2007 Report Share Posted June 3, 2007 I virtually never look at Rolling Stone anymore. But I saw a copy in the airport with an Bob Weir interview. So I checked it out. I was impressed. He is a very intelligent and level-headed individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted June 5, 2007 Report Share Posted June 5, 2007 I virtually never look at Rolling Stone anymore. But I saw a copy in the airport with an Bob Weir interview. So I checked it out. I was impressed. He is a very intelligent and level-headed individual. That's what happens when you DON'T take LSD for 60 years! BTW: Three From The Vault is coming this month. It is 2-19-71--the show planned and mixed 15 years ago for the same release. Some vintage Pig--a superb Smokestack Lightning with Jerry laying on a little slide near the end--crying the blues! Check out the new Dead.net--a work in progress. How are things going, Lon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Thanks for that headsup Bill. Been thinking of emailing you. Sort of a setback lately with my wife's counts. Going to Houston again tomorrow for a bone marrow aspiration biopsy and not too happy about it. . . . Been off the Dead wagon for a while, got wrapped up in a lot of AFRS Jubilee shows and Duke Ellington Treasury Shows, but I got to get back on the Dead trip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Thanks for that headsup Bill. Been thinking of emailing you. Sort of a setback lately with my wife's counts. Going to Houston again tomorrow for a bone marrow aspiration biopsy and not too happy about it. . . . Been off the Dead wagon for a while, got wrapped up in a lot of AFRS Jubilee shows and Duke Ellington Treasury Shows, but I got to get back on the Dead trip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny weir Posted June 12, 2007 Report Share Posted June 12, 2007 So I go to the Dead Store to pre-order the new Vault release, clicking through the various stages to ka-ching when up flashes the following shipping price to Australia: "UPS Worldwide Expedited - Shipping Cost: $78.20." Hello? Does the phrase "Get Fucked" mean anything to you? Given I had a heap of problems from them on my last order, I can only conclude that the Dead out-sourcing its merchandising is a debacle. Amazon here I come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted June 13, 2007 Report Share Posted June 13, 2007 Kenny, Skull Fucked perhaps..... Shipping to Sweden was also more or less the same price as my order! Wont be going down that road feelin bad again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajerzy Posted June 14, 2007 Report Share Posted June 14, 2007 Have someone from the States buy an extra one with their order, then have them ship it to you. The Dead store is only 1 hour from where I live- but they won't allow me to pick it up. I'm going to ask a few more times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vajerzy Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I priced out 2 box sets- to mail both to me is $8.50.....1 is 7.60......I wonder how much to mail the set USPS to Australia? Certainly won't be $78.00!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny weir Posted June 15, 2007 Report Share Posted June 15, 2007 I wonder how much to mail the set USPS to Australia? Certainly won't be $78.00!!! No it won't. But that IS what I was quoted. After previous hassles with them, I'm well beyond trying to sort out what the price would be. Amazon is easier, cheaper and hassle-free. Which ain't a good look for the band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 FYI... Three From The Vault CDU Pre-order No mention of the bonus disc??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Um, what bonus disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 While skimming this thread, trying to catch up on all things GD, I noticed a mention of a bonus disc of Pigpen rants, raves , and various other stage banter to be included in this release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 21, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 There's an additional disc added to Two From the Vault. . . that's the only new material in the box set other than Three from the Vault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Pusey Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Sundog, methinks that a certain Orchid doc has some explaining to do to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundog Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Sundog, methinks that a certain Orchid doc has some explaining to do to you! That's what I get for "skimming" the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orchiddoctor Posted June 23, 2007 Report Share Posted June 23, 2007 Sundog, methinks that a certain Orchid doc has some explaining to do to you! That's what I get for "skimming" the thread. Man, did I have fun with that one. I posted it on the archive.org g.d. thread several months ago, and it got picked up and reposted all over the place. "Yentle Pig"? The "bonus disc" is actually a repeat of the bonus material from the Rhino Anthem reissue in the box set. Kind of a slap in the face rip off. With so much unreleased material (at least not remastered officially), it's a shame that they are already repackaging what we already have. But, then, Rhino is a division of Warner Bros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 Happy 65th Jerry!! :party: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundsound Posted August 1, 2007 Report Share Posted August 1, 2007 I've always gotten a kick out of the fact that Jerry's bday is the same as mine. To me it's a cosmic confluence. I supposed that OrchidDoc has the same bday as PigPen. By the way, I noticed that the longest cuts on Vault III are the PigPen features. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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