Bobby Hutcherson's Inner Glow question

[ejp626]

As mentioned on a different thread, Hutcherson's Inner Glow is extremely hard to find. I really hope that it sees the light of day either as part of a Mosaic Hutcherson set or maybe as a Gale release. I've managed to track down nearly all the other Hutcherson's on LP. My question is whether two tracks reportedly on Inner Glow are the same as the ones on Waiting, or are these different versions? One track is Roses Poses and the other is Searchin' the Trane.

If they are the same, then a Waiting/Inner Glow release would be most welcome. Anyone, anyone.

Actually getting the material in any form would be most welcome, and if Blue Note or Mosaic isn't planning on releasing Cirrus, Lingus Lane, Waiting, etc. then we should lobby someone to license it, and perhaps that would be Gale.

Eric

[jazzbo]

I'm far away from my copies, but I'm 99% certain they are NOT the same performances, rather different ones with different personnel. . . .

[JSngry]

I'm far away from my copies, but I'm 99% certain they are NOT the same performances, rather different ones with different personnel. . . .

Definitely so. HEre's the details for INNER GLOW: http://www.jazzdisco.org/bluenote/jpn-cat/a/#gxf-3073

I don't have this album (don't even remember it. Could somebody post a cover scan?), but I do have WAITING, and, yeah, different personnel.

[Bill Fenohr]

Jim,

Inner Glow was a Japan only issue. That may be why you have not seen it. I can't scan covers but if you run over to that Vintage Vanguard site, he has all the Japanese covers on the page marked special albums.

[JSngry]

Thanks, Bill. found it just like you said.

This is indeed a new one on me!

[sidewinder]

..... Lingus Lane.....

[sidewinder]

This LP was issued on the same 'Japan only' series from King ('GX' series) that also resulted in 'Oblique'. Pretty well equally hard to find as 'Oblique', I'm sad to say..

I've never, ever, seen a copy of 'Inner Glow'. The Holy Grail perhaps?

Edited December 8, 2004 by sidewinder

[Dan Gould]

This LP was issued on the same 'Japan only' series from King ('GX' series) that also resulted in 'Oblique'. Pretty well equally hard to find as 'Oblique', I'm sad to say..

I've never, ever, seen a copy of 'Inner Glow'. The Holy Grail perhaps?

Its up on ebay as we speak:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4058820945&rd=1

[Dan Gould]

This is indeed a new one on me!

That's funny, this was one of the "Blue Note" links on my BFT (Dwight Dickerson on this and Dwight Dickerson on the Rickey Woodard cover of "Jeannine". Of course, there was obviously a stronger Blue Note connection in there anyway ...

[sidewinder]

This LP was issued on the same 'Japan only' series from King ('GX' series) that also resulted in 'Oblique'. Pretty well equally hard to find as 'Oblique', I'm sad to say..

I've never, ever, seen a copy of 'Inner Glow'. The Holy Grail perhaps?

Its up on ebay as we speak:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4058820945&rd=1

Thanks! It's in the cross-hairs..

[ejp626]

Its up on ebay as we speak:

Thanks!    It's in the cross-hairs..

Yeah, I just noticed this myself. Had I known, I would have waited a week to post my question.

Ah well. There's a good chance that the reserve is higher than I want to go anyway, but I guess we'll find out.

[ejp626]

In the spirit of cooperation and all that, I should mention that Dustygroove currently has several hard to find Hutcherson LPs, including Waiting and The View from Inside.

[DrJ]

Wow, never heard of INNER GLOW, thought I had a pretty good handle on the Hutch BN discography!

Just ONE MORE REASON that Mosaic URGENTLY needs to produce the following long-overdue box:

COMPLETE CADET/BLUE NOTE HUTCHERSON/LAND SESSIONS (and if there are any other contemporary dates for other labels that this would miss, by all means add 'em on!)

I have been revisiting some of the excellent dates that would be included and have not yet been on CD at all - CIRRUS, HEAD ON, PEACE-MAKER - and can't for the life of me understand why Michael Cuscuna hasn't done this one yet. A no brainer!

Edited December 12, 2004 by DrJ

[mike casinghino]

a while ago i sent a request to mosaic for some sort of hutcherson box with the following albums:

cirrus

knucklebeans

inner glow

head on

waiting

the view from the inside

the reply i received,"it's not definite,but possible".

if you are looking for a hutcherson box, send them an e-mail, it could help to get this box out.

[DrJ]

I have actually e-mailed them with my request Mike! However my box would look a little different - I would personally prefer a focus on just the Hutch/Land collaborations and would include stuff that's already been out on CD (because many people still haven't heard it, and they SHOULD!).

[Dan Gould]

This LP was issued on the same 'Japan only' series from King ('GX' series) that also resulted in 'Oblique'. Pretty well equally hard to find as 'Oblique', I'm sad to say..

I've never, ever, seen a copy of 'Inner Glow'. The Holy Grail perhaps?

Its up on ebay as we speak:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...4058820945&rd=1

Thanks! It's in the cross-hairs..

I see that with a day to go, at around $20.00, the reserve hasn't been met yet.

Having dealt with Atomic Records several times in the past, I will bet that their reserve on this record is $50.00. It seems as though every album I've won from them had that reserve.

[mike casinghino]

dr j, the reason i asked for a mosaic box of bobby hutcherson's later blue note recordings is that none of of the six have ever been out on cd anywhere. i believe it's about time. your mosaic box, which i would buy,would still include,inner glow, head on(a cadet recording released as bn4376),and cirrus,from my list. but a couple of items from your suggested box are available, now(just released)& san francisco.plus spiral, medina, and total eclipse, previously released, now oop.

a funny thing about bobby hutcherson's recording- head on. quite a while back, before i owned a computer,probably before bn had a bulletin board, i called up blue note on the phone. i was talking to someone(i can't reveal my source ,but they are still working there). i called to find out about upcoming releases, and i was sent a listing of all upcoming cd's. it was 2 or 3 pages long,(it included all emi jazz releases, not just bn), on that list, HEAD ON. i'll be darned that the only thing NOT released on that list was ,head on????

Edited December 14, 2004 by mike casinghino

[Bill Fenohr]

Mike,

I think you are getting Head On and The Peacemaker mixed up. The Peacemaker was the Cadet date. Head On was a BN date produced by George Butler. Both nice albums,but it would not break my heart if they lost the track on the Peacemaker with Duck Bailey playing harmonica.

BTW the old BN discography shows two unissued tracks for the Head On date.

[mike casinghino]

bill, sorry about that,i must of lost my head! the bn disco. does have this listed as a bn recording. though the all music website has it listed as a cadet recording.

[sidewinder]

Looks like the ebay 'Inner Glow' failed to reach it's reserve, at about $62 final bid price.

[ejp626]

I think they've settled on a $75 reserve price now. Call me crazy, but that's a bit much for an LP that might be near mint or something a lot less. Like Mike, I think I'll focus my attention on trying to get Mosaic to re-issue some of the later Hutcherson albums. I have 4 of the 6 OOP BNs listed above on vinyl, and based on that, I am pretty sure all 6 would fit on a Select. I'd also like to see a Land set, though that would be trickier, since the best OOP albums are spread over a few labels.

The Hutcherson would be

Cirrus

Linger Lane

View From Inside

Knucklebean

Inner Glow

Head On

Adding Total Eclipse would make this a 4 disc set, so that's probably out.

Land might be

Jazz Impressions of Folk Music (Imperial)

The Peacemaker (Cadet)

Take Aim (BN)

New Shade of Blue (Mainstream)

Damisi (Mainstream)

Choma (Mainstream)

I suspect this would fit on three CDs, but if not, I'd lose Jazz Impressions.

Of these, I only have Choma, which is pretty good.

So that will make up my suggestions to Mosaic. Anyone else is welcome to borrow this list to add their support.

Eric

[Dan Gould]

I think they've settled on a $75 reserve price now. Call me crazy, but that's a bit much for an LP that might be near mint or something a lot less.

My experience with Atomic Records is that they are highly accurate in their grading.

[sidewinder]

This one looked like a lovely copy (with the very big assumption that the vinyl was as well looked after as the cover). I suspect that it was worth every cent of it's reserve.

Edited December 15, 2004 by sidewinder

[ejp626]

This one looked like a lovely copy (with the very big assumption that the vinyl was as well looked after as the cover). I suspect that it was worth every cent of it's reserve.

Perhaps, but I am completely uninterested in vinyl as an artifact, so it wasn't worth it to me. If Mosaic happens to release this as part of a Select, then I would be very unhappy having just spent enough (with shipping) to buy two Selects. I'd much rather get this session, and the others, reissued. That said, if anyone wanted to trade for a CDR of Inner Glow, while we wait for a legit release, I'm open to suggestions...

[DrJ]

Wasn't Land's JAZZ IMPRESSIONS OF FOLK MUSIC already included in the Carmell Jones Mosaic Select? I'm sure it was...

I know there's a lot of later Hutcherson that hasn't seen light of day on CD, but I'd live with missing a few to get a Hutch/Land collection. One of the great partnerships in jazz, highly worthy of a full-sized Mosaic devoted to their work. Re: work being spread across labels, that's just another reason for Mosaic to take this on - one of their specialties is bringing together such scattered work.

Edited December 15, 2004 by DrJ