Lee Konitz Motion 3cd

[Clunky]

Konitz

might be of interest, I have no connection with the seller

[sidewinder]

A snip for someone. That original price of £47 is outrageous, although as with most/all of the Verve Elites the music and presentation are outstanding.

[Clunky]

A snip for someone. That original price of £47 is outrageous, although as with most/all of the Verve Elites the music and presentation are outstanding.

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I paid £44 if I remember correctly ( from a regular dealer who had great difficulty getting it), it seemed pretty steep , but then as now I was really keen on LK so figured it was worth it.

[jazzbo]

These were premiumly priced here in the USA when first released as well; I don't remember specifically what I paid for mine, but it was probably over fifty dollars plus tax.

[sidewinder]

I gave up searching in the UK and bought from either Tower or HMV Canada, I think. Seem to recall a price around the $35-40 mark. HMV Canada was a good source at the time for some of the scarcer Elites (I don't think the word had got out up there).

Edited May 20, 2005 by sidewinder

[Alfred]

EUR 24! Not too bad for a sealed OOP Elite Edition! I paid EUR 40 when it was released in 1998.

Edited May 20, 2005 by Alfred

[JSngry]

This is one of those sets where if you dig the music, really dig it, you'll do what you gotta do to get it. An amazing document.

[Dave Garrett]

I just picked up a sealed copy of this set on eBay a couple of months ago for $46.00 - I was kinda surprised I got it, as I'd recently been outbid on another one that wasn't sealed but still sold for significantly more than that.

[Sundog]

Some of my favorite Konitz. I was unaware of this 3 disc set. (You guys are killing me!)

[JohnJ]

Just found a used copy of this for around $20. Look forward to listening to this later.

[David Ayers]

The listing has been withdrawn. Pity.

[Clunky]

I was spinning this set the other day. Amazing stuff. Wonder how much of the other Konitz's Verve sessions out takes are still awaiting reissue in some form.?

Wasn't there supposed to more Konitz/Marsh from the Half -Note still to be released in addition to the 2CD issued a few years ago?

[jazzbo]

I remember being amazed when viewing a Konitz discography online that there are sizable chunks of Verve recordings, entire sessions, unreleased ever.

Shiverin' timbers! Would be good to hear some of those.

[Pete B]

there are 4 cdrs worth of Konitz/Marsh Half Note material circulating among collectors that are in addition to the Verve 2-cd issue. This material was recorded by Peter Ind for Verve, and is the source of the Marsh solos which were edited by Lennie Tristano and were issued on the "Art of Improvising" lps. Details can be found at Here

Edited July 4, 2006 by Pete B

[Hank]

there are 4 cdrs worth of Konitz/Marsh Half Note material circulating among collectors that are in addition to the Verve 2-cd issue. This material was recorded by Peter Ind for Verve, and is the source of the Marsh solos which were edited by Lennie Tristano and were issued on the "Art of Improvising" lps. Details can be found at Here

Ind has released on CD some Konitz and Marsh work on his Wave label. These include "Jazz from the Nineteen Fifties," a Konitz date from February 1957 with Don Ferrara, Billy Bauer, Dick Scott, and Peter Ind. The sound quality is excellent, and the disc does NOT replicate (ASFAIK) any tracks from the Mosaic box, and "London Concert," a nice Konitz/Marsh club date from March 15, 1976 with Al Levitt on drums and Ind on bass.

Now if Ind would only release the Half Note stuff---that I would surely love to hear!

[Clunky]

there are 4 cdrs worth of Konitz/Marsh Half Note material circulating among collectors that are in addition to the Verve 2-cd issue. This material was recorded by Peter Ind for Verve, and is the source of the Marsh solos which were edited by Lennie Tristano and were issued on the "Art of Improvising" lps. Details can be found at Here

wow, so who has the rights to this material Ind or Verve ?

[Pete B]

there are 4 cdrs worth of Konitz/Marsh Half Note material circulating among collectors that are in addition to the Verve 2-cd issue. This material was recorded by Peter Ind for Verve, and is the source of the Marsh solos which were edited by Lennie Tristano and were issued on the "Art of Improvising" lps. Details can be found at Here

wow, so who has the rights to this material Ind or Verve ?

Since they are the same source as the 2-cd Konitz/Marsh set, I would speculate that Verve owns the rights. More's the pity.

[chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez]

yea yea konitz is "ok" but lennie's star pupil is Warne

[Kalo]

This is one of those sets where if you dig the music, really dig it, you'll do what you gotta do to get it. An amazing document.

Oh yes.

Time to spin these discs again!

[JSngry]

yea yea konitz is "ok" but lennie's star pupil is Warne

Warne went waaay beyond Lennie imo.

Edited July 5, 2006 by JSngry

[garthsj]

This thread brings out a lot of thoughts .... I LOVE this music ....

That last Peter Ind release, JAZZ FROM THE NINETEEN FIFTIES (Wave CD39), with Konitz, Don Ferrara, Billy Bauer, Dick Scott (Tox Drohar), and Peter Ind is a sadly neglected gem, which should have received far more atention than it did. In my mind it certainly ranks up there with some of the "rediscovered" treasures so loudly triumphed in the press lately. And there is the promise that there is still more music where this came from ...

Also Peter Ind's wonderful book, JAZZ VISIONS: LENNIE TRISTANO AND HIS LEGACY (London:Equinox, 2005) is required reading for those who wish to gain an accurate insight into Tristano's role in the development of modern jazz. I think that Ind takes on, and disposes of many of the mythologies that have surrounded Tristano, and in particular that Lennie's music was strictly "white" and "cool" .... I would heartily recommend this book to anyone interested in the history of jazz. I thought that I knew a lot about the Tristanoites, but this book has given me a whole new perspective and appreciation for this essential music.