Newport Rebels

[bertrand]

Haven't had the time to do a thorough search, but maybe someone already has the answer.

Newport Rebels has just been reissued. The tracks are:

Mysterious Blues

Cliff Walk

Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams

'tain't Nobody's Bizness If I Do

Me And You

Do these appear on any other Candid CDs/LPs? There's a 'Bizness' on Candid Dolphy, but Mike's Abbey Lincoln discography seems to suggest it's a different take. I'm pretty sure 1 and 3 are on other Mingus Candid CDs, but again, perhaps different takes. How about 2 and 5?

Thanks,

Bertrand.

[brownie]

The Candid Dolphy CD has take 3 of 'T' Ain't Nobody's Business if I do' (7:42) which is a different take from the Candid Newport Rebels original (7:11).

The Mingus Candid CD (Reincarnation of a Love Bird) has a different take (take 4) of 'Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams' (3:55) that is different from the Candid LP (3:47).

[bertrand]

Thank you, Brownie.

So the two takes I have are actually alternates, and I dod not have tracks 1, 2 and 5 either - so this is a must buy. I'm almost done putting the complete Booker Little discography into my iPod, and 'Cliff Walk' is missing (although apparently it's the same composition as 'Looking Ahead'). Don Sickler was raving to me about how great this track was - can't wait to hear it.

I apologize for accidentally putting this in the wrong forum - does anybody know how I can move this to discography?

Thanks,

Bertrand.

[Bright Moments]

just picked this up:

the only overlap from the newport rebels cd is "mysterous blues"

i wonder what else was recorded at that november 11, 1960 session and where it can be found!

[Bright Moments]

anybody have any clue what else was recorded on that day?

[medjuck]

The Mosaic Mingus Debut box has two takes each of Wrap Your Troubles and Body and Soul, the latter not seeming to appear on this cd at all.

[brownie]

anybody have any clue what else was recorded on that day?

The only material that has surfaced from that session remains:

- Wrap Your Troubles in Dreams (two takes)

- Me and You

- Mysterious Blues

- Body and Soul (two takes)

- R and R

This was the content of the Complete Candid Mingus Mosaic!

[mikeweil]

Cliff Walk is from a different session:

NewportRebels

6. T’AintNobody’s Business If I Do (take 3) (PorterGrainger, Everett Robbins) 7:42

7. T’Aint Nobody’s Business If I Do (PorterGrainger, Everett Robbins) 7:11

8. Cliff Walk (Booker Little) 9:39

9. Oh Yeah, Oh Yeah (Kenny Dorham) 7:00

NolaPenthouse Studios, New York City, November 1, 1960

AbbeyLincoln vocalson tracks 6 & 7

BennyBailey trumpeton tracks 6,7,9

Booker Little trumpet and arrangement on track 8

EricDolphy altosaxophone on tracks 6 & 7

WalterBenton tenorsaxophone on track 8 & 9

CecilPayne baritonesaxophone on track 9

KennyDorham pianoon tracks 6 & 7, trumpet and arrangement on track 9

PeckMorrisonbass

JoJones drumson tracks 6,7,8

MaxRoach drumson tracks 8 & 9

 

[Bright Moments]

just picked this up:

the only overlap from the newport rebels cd is "mysterous blues"

i wonder what else was recorded at that november 11, 1960 session and where it can be found!

here is the line up on this cd recorded 11/11/60:

1. Lock 'Em Up 6:44

2. Re-Incarnation Of A Love Bird 7:00

3. Bugs 8:31

4. Mysterious Blues 8:40

5. Body And Soul 10:50

6. R And R

Edited November 4, 2010 by Bright Moments

[MartyJazz]

The Candid Dolphy CD has take 3 of 'T' Ain't Nobody's Business if I do' (7:42) which is a different take from the Candid Newport Rebels original (7:11).

The Mingus Candid CD (Reincarnation of a Love Bird) has a different take (take 4) of 'Wrap Your Troubles In Dreams' (3:55) that is different from the Candid LP (3:47).

Thanks. I have the original LPs and the Candid CDs and had never realized that these takes differed, particularly the Abbey as I've listened to her version of "T'aint...." quite a few times over the years.