Miles & Trane (Live In St. Louis 1956)

[Sundog]

What's the deal with this?

[Sundog]

From jazzdisco.org

Possibly some or all of this........

Miles Davis Quintet at Peacock Alley (VGM/Soulard VGM-SOU 1997)

Miles Davis (tp) John Coltrane (ts) Red Garland (p) Paul Chambers (b) Philly Joe Jones (d) Spider Burks (ann)

"Peacock Alley", St. Louis, MO, July 14, 1956

Intro

Ah-Leu-Cha

A Foggy Day

All of You

Woody'n You

Walkin'

same personnel

"Peacock Alley", St. Louis, MO, July 21, 1956

Two Bass Hit

Well, You Needn't

Billy Boy

All of You

Oleo (Airegin)

Airegin (Newk, #2) / Bye Bye (theme)

Sign Off / Bye Bye (theme)

[jazzbo]

What's the deal with this?

Yes, out before, I have the premiere cd issue.

[Sundog]

I can't imagine the performance being bad. How's the sound quality?

[medjuck]

Though I think Peter Losin's discography says these performances are really from Feb 16 and 23 1957.

[Swinging Swede]

But according to Peter Losin's excellent Miles Davis sessionography the dates on the Soulard CD (and jazzdisco.org) are wrong and the correct dates are February 16 & 23, 1957.

The sound is very bad, but if you can listen through that, the music is great of course.

[Swinging Swede]

Medjuck was quicker than I! Should add that the Jazz Factory release can be expected to be a straight rip of the Soulard CD (as always with the Andorran guys).

[jazzbo]

I wouldn't call the sound "very bad" myself. . . it's just not "good." A few offmike moments you wish weren't there, but it can be listened to. . . .

[marcello]

This is from David Wild's site. I have it on VGM also and the sound isn't that bad:

Personnel: Miles Davis, tp;Coltrane, ts;William 'Red' Garland, p; Paul Chambers, b; Philly Joe Jones, dr.

Location: 'Peacock Alley' St. Louis MO

Date: 7/21/56

Engineer:

a. "Two Bass Hit" (J. Lewis D. Gillespie) 5:16

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b. "Well You Needn't" (T. Monk) 7:39

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c. "Billy Boy" (Traditional arr. Red Garland) 4:23

Coltrane Out

d. "All Of You" (C. Porter) 11:03

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e. "Oleo" (Sonny Rollins) 6:07

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f. "Airegin" (Sonny Rollins) 7:01

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g. "The Theme" INC (M. Davis) 1:17

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Although the dates shown here are those shown on the CD, pursuasive evidence suggests that these broadcasts are from early 1957.

Personnel: Miles Davis, tp;Coltrane, ts;William 'Red' Garland, p; Paul Chambers, b; Philly Joe Jones, dr.

Location: 'Peacock Alley', St. Louis MO

Date: 7/14/56

a. "Ah-leu-cha" (C. Parker) 5:53

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b. "A Foggy Day" (G. Gershwin) 5:19

Coltrane out

c. "All Of You" (C. Porter) 6:35

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d. "Woody 'n' You" (Dizzy Gillespie) 5:13

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e. "Walkin'" (R. Carpenter) 7:27

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[brownie]

Always liked the idea this has been taped on Bastille Day 1956!

Ken Vail's 'Miles' Diary' chronology says the Miles Davis Quintet opened on July 13, 1956 'for a nine-day engagement'. But I trust the plosin Miles Ahead discography.

The plosin site has the full list of the Soulard CD content, all 73m58s of it:

Announcement [spider Burks] Feb 16, 1957 0:41

Ah-Leu-Cha (C. Parker) [with introduction] Feb 16, 1957 5:53

A Foggy Day (G. Gershwin-I. Gershwin) [with introduction] Feb 16, 1957 5:19

All of You (C. Porter) [with introduction] Feb 16, 1957 6:35

Woody 'n' You (D. Gillespie) [with introduction] Feb 16, 1957 5:13

Walkin' (R. Carpenter) [with introduction] Feb 16, 1957 7:27

Two Bass Hit (J. Lewis-D. Gillespie) [with introduction] Feb 23, 1957 5:16

Well, You Needn't (T. Monk) [with introduction] Feb 23, 1957 7:39

Billy Boy (Traditional, arr. A. Jamal) [with introduction] Feb 23, 1957 4:23

All of You (C. Porter) [with introduction] Feb 23, 1957 11:02

Oleo (S. Rollins) [with introduction] Feb 23, 1957 6:07

Airegin/The Theme [with introduction] Feb 23, 1957 7:02

Announcement/The Theme [incomplete] Feb 16, 1957 1:16

The audio goes from very bad - up to the Red Garland feature 'A Foggy Day' where Garland sounds like he is playing electric piano! - to rather bad. Paul Chambers is undermiked through both dates!

But the music is BAD!

Edited May 1, 2006 by brownie

[Rooster_Ties]

Anybody know where 'Peacock Alley' was in St. Louis?? Would love to look up the address on Google Maps. (I'm originally from near St. Louis.) Thanks!!

[brownie]

Rooster, the liner notes to the Soulard CD indicate the jazz club was in the basement of the MidTown Hotel 'in the heart of the African-American community'. Good luck!