rostasi Posted May 26, 2006 Report Posted May 26, 2006 If you decide to go and see this - stay in yer seat until the very end - after the end credits run. Quote
relyles Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 I saw it last night, but did not stay until after the credits. I caught the 12:01 a.m. show and after 2:00 a.m. when the movie ended all I wanted to do was go to bed. Quote
rostasi Posted May 27, 2006 Author Report Posted May 27, 2006 It's only 30 seconds long, but it's a very important plot twist! "dont you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, BITCH!" Quote
RDK Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 If you decide to go and see this - stay in yer seat until the very end - after the end credits run. I saw it earlier today and had heard beforehand about the tag at the end. But even though i stayed past the credits - about a zillion names - just to see it... the damn theater raised the lights, started playing their damn music, and cut off the projection just as the tag was beginning. So could please post the end tag (with the proper spoiler warning of course)??? Quote
HolyStitt Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 I went earlier today and was very disappointed. Disclaimer: I have to admit, I was a hardcore Uncanny X-Men and Marvel fan in the 1980's. Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 Saw it today. Missed the extra scene past the credits. Film was okay, but nothing special. I didn't care for all the deaths and the darkness. Aside from Magneto, Halle Berry and Hugh Jackman dominated. Juggernaut is cool. Too damned many characters; too many mutants. You get the feeling the film maker was more concerned about technical mastery than with story--thus the many mutants and their special powers with little or no character development. Quote
rostasi Posted May 27, 2006 Author Report Posted May 27, 2006 OK, here's a website page to go to. You may get a popup window first, but just close it. I'll let you find the info on the page. It's pretty easy to find. DO NOT GO HERE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW! I know that it's a little like saying, "Don't look at that green elephant" but if you are seriously considering going to this film, then I highly recommend that you wait and find out at the theater 'cause it'll have more of an impact. Anyway...the info is here. Rod Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 OK, here's a website page to go to. You may get a popup window first, but just close it. I'll let you find the info on the page. It's pretty easy to find. DO NOT GO HERE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW! I know that it's a little like saying, "Don't look at that green elephant" but if you are seriously considering going to this film, then I highly recommend that you wait and find out at the theater 'cause it'll have more of an impact. Anyway...the info is here. Rod Either I couldn't find the part to show the download, or I wan unable to. Can you please clarify what was related after the credits? Quote
Jazzmoose Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 Holy shit! They're bringing back the Green Elephant??? Quote
RDK Posted May 27, 2006 Report Posted May 27, 2006 Thanks Rod. The funny thing about that blog and those comments is that i think some of them think that the X-Men are real and that the film is really a documentary that messes with the facts! Quote
rostasi Posted May 27, 2006 Author Report Posted May 27, 2006 Thanks Rod. The funny thing about that blog and those comments is that i think some of them think that the X-Men are real and that the film is really a documentary that messes with the facts! Yeah, they really take their comics seriously! (Isn't that an oxymoron?) Quote
Alexander Posted May 28, 2006 Report Posted May 28, 2006 (edited) I saw it last night (and stayed past the credits to see the "X-tra Scene"). Here are my thoughts: SPOILER WARNING!!!!! I have issues with the way the story was structured and, yes, I am a fan from waaaaaay back and I actually used to OWN the "Death of Phoenix" issue, so I also have some problems with the way the film deviates from the source material. I'm not freaking out over the fact that Jean was considerably less cosmic and god-like than she was in the comic. Nor am I freaking out over the fact that the final conflict wasn't held in the Blue Area of the Moon in the presence of the Watcher. No, I certainly understand that comics are comics and movies are movies, and changes have to be made. That said: I strongly disagree with killing off Cyclops during the first fifteen minutes of the film. The Professor X thing was different (for one thing, he's not really dead). For me, who grew up reading my dad's old comics (I'm talking about the stuff from the 60s), Cyclops IS the X-Men. He's certainly the guy with the coolest power (I mean, come on...Claws are great, but we're talking about OPTIC BLASTS here). He's also the only original X-Man to make the transition from the old Lee/Kirby team to the "new" team introduced in Giant Sized X-Men #1 (I know that the other members of the "old" team - the Beast, the Angel, Iceman, and Marvel Girl/Phoenix - were part of the "new" X-Men from time to time, but only Scott was there consistantly). I had felt that Cyclops was marginalized in the first two X-Men films, but killing him off (by Jean no less) is just...wrong. I know why they did it. And it works, for dramatic purposes. It says that none of the characters are safe (well, except for Wolverine. He has to survive to spin off into his own series of films). It certainly shocked the hell out of me and kept me on the edge of my seat. But Scott and Jean were THE big couple at Marvel Comics (sort of like Lois and Clark over at DC). When Jean died (sacrificing herself to save the universe) it was made all the more poignant because it happened while Scott was fighting to save her life. Jean's death in the film was somewhat hollow without Scott there. Wolvie may have loved her, but Scott LOVED her. In the comic, when it comes time to take Jean down, Wolverine can't bring himself to hurt her because of his love for her. In the film, Wolverine kills Jean...why? Well, she's become dangerous as hell, of course. But why was it HIS hand that had to pull the trigger, so to speak? Why not Storm? Or even Magneto? Also, Scott's death meant that he wasn't on hand for the first "reunion" of the original team in the films (this was the first film to have all five of the original X-Men, or rather it would have if Scott had been alive when the Angel and the Beast turned up). That aside, I was entertained. I liked Kelsey Grammar's performance as the Bounding Beast (always one of my favorite characters). It was a truly inspired bit of casting. I wish they had retained the plot point that the Juggernaut is Professor X's half-brother (there's a reason that his name is "Cain Marko"), but I enjoyed his part in the film. I should point out, however, that in the comic book the Juggernaut is NOT a mutant. He got his power from some sort of mystic ruby. So he shouldn't have been effected by Leech's power. I also wish they'd found more to do for the Multiple Man (I know it's goofy, but I always liked him in the comics). I was also saddened that Alan Cummings did not reprise his role as Nightcrawler from X2. Seeing the blue, furry Beast fighting side-by-side with the blue, fuzzy Nightcrawler would have been a hoot. I thought that McKellen was, ahem, magnetic (couldn't resist). I liked the opening scene in which he and Professor X visit the young Jean. The digital make-over (much ballyhooed in the press) was well done. Although I recognized quite a few names from the ending credits, I thought that the younger X-Men and most of the evil mutants were too anonymous (I had the feeling that many of the "punks" that Magneto hooked up with were supposed to be the sewer dwelling Morlocks, but it wasn't clear). I also liked (in his small role) Michael Murphy as Warren Worthington II (father of the high-flying Angel). I also appreciated the cameo made by the mutant-hunting Sentinels during the danger-room simulation (I was upset the Cyke wasn't included in that scene either). Seeing Kitty Pryde (who had appeared in the first two films as an anonymous student) in action was great, and I loved that she took out the Juggernaut. But on the whole it wasn't as good as the previous two films. Was it too many mutants, as many have claimed? Perhaps, but I think the biggest problem was that too much attention was paid to the spectical in the end and not enough to the simple human moments that always defined the comic. Edited May 28, 2006 by Alexander Quote
Alexander Posted May 28, 2006 Report Posted May 28, 2006 OK, here's a website page to go to. You may get a popup window first, but just close it. I'll let you find the info on the page. It's pretty easy to find. DO NOT GO HERE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW! I know that it's a little like saying, "Don't look at that green elephant" but if you are seriously considering going to this film, then I highly recommend that you wait and find out at the theater 'cause it'll have more of an impact. Anyway...the info is here. Rod The biggest problem with the site is the fact that these people can't spell... Quote
rostasi Posted May 28, 2006 Author Report Posted May 28, 2006 The biggest problem with the site is the fact that these people can't spell...A pretty common problem on the Web...but I wanted to say that I wasn't advocating the site by picking that one. It was just one that had the answer, and it was a bit buried so that anyone who went there definitely wanted to know (whether they'd seen the movie or not). I suppose another one could've done the job too. Quote
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