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In 150 years when we are all dead, what jazz artists will be remembere

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Matthew Enthusiast

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How will we be able to find out which, if any, of our predictions were correct?

"Our warp drive has fractured the space-time continuum!"

Star Trek has the answer to everything.

Hot Ptah Newbie

Hot Ptah

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The only jazz musician from our time who will be remembered is a musician whose music is very much like the music of 2156, and who is seen as the originator of all mid-22nd century music: Pete Cosey.

Jim R Newbie

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How will we be able to find out which, if any, of our predictions were correct?

We won't, but our descendants (who will be keeping this thread going) will.

As Dan suggested, I'd say all of the above, and more (probably not Pete Cosey ^_^ )

Brad Experienced

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I think the question is who is the most influential musician of all time. I couldn't pick one, I'd have to pick three: Armstrong, Duke and Parker. I believe they changed our music the most.

Soul Stream Newbie

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They (and all the other major and minor players) will all be remembered on a daily basis. Because, unlike even a century ago we have modern, great-sounding recordings of their work.

There will be people listening to Joe Henderson and the like until the end 'o time....because, like all masterworks...it's timeless. Why are WE listening to 60's Larry Young? I mean, that's "old" stuff.

RDK Newbie

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Whose going to be remebered will probably be a surpise. Look at Tina Brooks; in 1965 would anyone had said Brooks would be as popular as he's become?

Well, "popular" is a relative term. Brooks has what, maybe 5000 "diehard" fans, now at the height of his popularity?

BruceH Newbie

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All of the above.

Maybe I'm an optimist, but I can't see one of that list being remembered without all the others too. Dan had it right, I think: We don't just remember Beethovan, but also Bach, Mozart, Brahms, Haydn and so on. Some of us even remember Schubert. (On this scale, Coltrane = Wagner.) :) I think they'd either ALL be forgotten, or all remembered.

Hot Ptah Newbie

Hot Ptah

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Forget 150 years. What about 1500 years? Or 5000 years?

5000 years from now, archaelogists will find fragments of a CD and wonder if it is from a household implement of some type. There will be a tantalizing piece of one page of a book about jazz, as the only surviving remnant of the art form. The page is badly damaged, with some pieces of it missing. Using state of the art techniques from 5000 years from now, scientists will come to the best possible reconstruction of that page. They will conclude that someone known as "anle Cr" was the leading scholar of the era, and that jazz was played by a person worshipped as a god, the "alis."

BeBop Rookie

BeBop

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The way society is going, I'd guess it would be anyone who did sensational things or lived a sensational life. So, perhaps Bird will be remembered more more his early demise and drug problems, Miles for his outrageous persona, Frank Rosolino, Lee Morgan... I just think that image will (continue to) trump contributions to the culture in Joe Six Pack's mind. That's why Joe today knows Paris Hilton, Pamela Anderson, Tommy Lee, and a host of "movie stars", but hardly anyone of cultural merit. Sorry, I'm more cynical than usual today.

Alexander Hawkins Explorer

Alexander Hawkins

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Forget 150 years. What about 1500 years? Or 5000 years?

5000 years from now, archaelogists will find fragments of a CD and wonder if it is from a household implement of some type. There will be a tantalizing piece of one page of a book about jazz, as the only surviving remnant of the art form. The page is badly damaged, with some pieces of it missing. Using state of the art techniques from 5000 years from now, scientists will come to the best possible reconstruction of that page. They will conclude that someone known as "anle Cr" was the leading scholar of the era, and that jazz was played by a person worshipped as a god, the "alis."

:tup:rofl:

Neal Pomea Newbie

Neal Pomea

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I am probably even more cynical today than BeBop.

Will they be remembered 150 years from now? Are they remembered well today? The entry for Brittney Spears in Wikipedia is longer than the entry on Louis Armstrong!

Of course, Wikipedia has a strong bias toward entries by people consumed with pop culture. Entries on pop culture have the same value and weight in Wikipedia as those things that have traditionally gone into an encyclopedia.

Dan Gould Mentor

Dan Gould

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I am probably even more cynical today than BeBop.

Will they be remembered 150 years from now? Are they remembered well today? The entry for Brittney Spears in Wikipedia is longer than the entry on Louis Armstrong!

Of course, Wikipedia has a strong bias toward entries by people consumed with pop culture. Entries on pop culture have the same value and weight in Wikipedia as those things that have traditionally gone into an encyclopedia.

If Wikipedia is the standard of cultural knowledge 150 years from now, we are in deep, deep trouble.

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