jlhoots Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 This appears to be available. Anyone heard it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 This appears to be available. Anyone heard it? Mine's on its way. I'll report when I've listened to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 How much is it this go around? I have the first 3 cd set, but didn't drop the $ on the follow up 2 disc set that was the same price. The 3 seemed to be a fair price, the 2 seemed expensive for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) How much is it this go around? I have the first 3 cd set, but didn't drop the $ on the follow up 2 disc set that was the same price. The 3 seemed to be a fair price, the 2 seemed expensive for some reason. Exact same situation here. I really like this band and would like to have the multiple disc sets, but you can only charge so much for CDs in my opinion. Edit: Just checked the price....$35 for two discs. Damn. Edited October 26, 2006 by sal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) Compare this to Chuck's offer of 5 discs of Vandermark for $34. I realize there's a little different dynamic (and a greater number of artists in the SF Jazz Collective) involved here, but there's still no reason that we should pay $35 for a two disc set, especially when this is coming direct from the source, not through normal retail channels. Edited October 26, 2006 by Aggie87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 These seem to eventually end up at Borders store here. If this is the case with your Borders, wait 'til then and use a coupon which will soften the blow a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted October 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 These seem to eventually end up at Borders store here. If this is the case with your Borders, wait 'til then and use a coupon which will soften the blow a bit. I've only seen the one disc "compilations", never the 2 & 3 disc sets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 These seem to eventually end up at Borders store here. If this is the case with your Borders, wait 'til then and use a coupon which will soften the blow a bit. I've only seen the one disc "compilations", never the 2 & 3 disc sets. ...same here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hmm....I'll have to take another look. I thought they were the multi-disc sets. I may be wrong...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Storer Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) The SF Jazz Collective e-Store provides the skinny: For the Collective's 2004 inaugural season, SFJAZZ issued a collector's edition 3-CD set documenting live recordings of the ensemble's eight original compositions and six masterworks by Ornette Coleman. In fall 2005, SFJAZZ released a limited edition 2-CD set documenting the ensemble's second season (spring '05) with live recordings of each of the new compositions by each band member and new arrangements of seven works by John Coltrane. In fall 2006, SFJAZZ will release a limited edition multi-disc set documenting the ensemble's third season (spring '06) with live recordings of each of the new compositions by each band member and new arrangements of six works by Herbie Hancock. Further googling reveals that there are also one-CD compilations of the 2004 and 2005 sets released on Nonesuch. Can anyone offer an opinion on the first two? I'm afraid it'll be terribly professional and squeaky clean but without much juice. In particular, I'm having a hard time imagining these folks really being comfortable with Ornette's music on the first release... Edited October 27, 2006 by Tom Storer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) Edit: Just checked the price....$35 for two discs. Damn. Consider yourselves lucky; in Northern Europe a single full-price CD is equal to $28 in the stores. Edited October 27, 2006 by Daniel A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) I have the first 3 cd set, but didn't drop the $ on the follow up 2 disc set that was the same price. The 3 seemed to be a fair price, the 2 seemed expensive for some reason. I know price is important but I'm sure many of us would never think twice about paying $35 for say, a Japanese reissue of some long forgotten recording by an artist we enjoy, even if it is not his best work. I think with recordings by the SF Collective, and ArtistsShare is another label that comes to mind, we should support the musicians and expect perhaps to pay a little bit extra for the privilege of listening to some terrific music. Everything is beautifully recorded and presented and I would think only sells in limited numbers, so unless we buy it, then ......what? In answer to Toms's question about the relative merits of the 2004 & 2005 SF Collective recordings, then my preference is for the original, 2004, collection. I think they handle Ornette's music well and they are such catchy tunes, but personally I prefer the original tunes by each of the band members. Edited October 27, 2006 by Head Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Can anyone offer an opinion on the first two? I'm afraid it'll be terribly professional and squeaky clean but without much juice. In particular, I'm having a hard time imagining these folks really being comfortable with Ornette's music on the first release... There have been previous threads about this topic. If I remember correctly, the opinions regarding this set were quite positive. I never heard the second set covering Coltrane's music, but I quite enjoyed the first one where they did Ornette's. They were very creative with the arrangements and did a fine job re-interperting the songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montg Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 In answer to Toms's question about the relative merits of the 2004 & 2005 SF Collective recordings, then my preference is for the original, 2004, collection. I think they handle Ornette's music well and they are such catchy tunes, but personally I prefer the original tunes by each of the band members This is my feeling too. The first disc was really enjoyable--the compositions, the playing, the sonics..one of my favorites among newer releases. The second disc, in contrast, was disappointing to me. The compositions tended to be a little flat and the sound wasn't as good. Hopefully, just a sophmore slump and the 2006 set rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 2, 2006 Report Share Posted November 2, 2006 Compare this to Chuck's offer of 5 discs of Vandermark for $34. I realize there's a little different dynamic (and a greater number of artists in the SF Jazz Collective) involved here, but there's still no reason that we should pay $35 for a two disc set, especially when this is coming direct from the source, not through normal retail channels. Thanks for the reminder on the Vmark - I think I'd rather have that deal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gslade Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) Just a note received with my shipment from SF Jazz "The forecast for the SF jazz Collective remains just as bright. In 2007 they will cross the Pacific Ocean for their first Asian tour, then return for a string of dates in the U.s. before reforming in the summer to hit the European jazz frestival circuit. The group will welcome Dave Douglas as its new trumpeter following the departure of founding trumpeter Nicholas Payton. And Stefon Harris, a Fellow "#1Rising Star" will be a guest on vibes for the European leg of their tour" Listening to Disc#1 so far Edited November 14, 2006 by gslade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 I just found a used copy of the '05 set yesterday for $9. Not too shabby. I haven't listened to all of it yet, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted November 14, 2006 Report Share Posted November 14, 2006 (edited) way too expensive - I've done plenty of my own CD production and current costs do not warrant such high retail, even if bought through a third party- Edited November 14, 2006 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 24, 2006 Report Share Posted November 24, 2006 proceeds form the cd sets go to the education project of the SF Jazz Org so this might be part of the deal, price wise. I've been listening to disc 1 sofar and it's great again (just as the 2004 & 2005 editions). For the cheapos on this board (who don't take their jazz seriously): there's a 1 cd compilation coming again next year from Nonesuch..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 For the cheapos on this board (who don't take their jazz seriously): there's a 1 cd compilation coming again next year from Nonesuch..... Thanks for passing judgement there, Reinier. I'm a cheapo when I think things are overpriced. Apparently that makes me someone who doesn't take my jazz seriously. I purchased 21 CDs today by the way, 12 of which were jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 you see that's exactly what I mean.....a mere 50% of jazz purchases......not serious!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 I think I missed the humor in your statement the first time around, Reinier. Sorry - had a long day yesterday. Signed, Cheapskate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 aaahhhh the Dutch and their so called humor all the time!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal Posted November 25, 2006 Report Share Posted November 25, 2006 For the cheapos on this board (who don't take their jazz seriously): there's a 1 cd compilation coming again next year from Nonesuch..... Perhaps you should have re-phrased this as "for the people on this board who don't have the disposable income to buy the 2 CD set....." I don't see how the inability to purchase every jazz CD out there no matter what the price equates to not "taking jazz seriously"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 26, 2006 Report Share Posted November 26, 2006 a little more serious replies please........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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