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She cheated, got caught, lied about it and is now paying the price. I'll save my sympathy for those who go broke through no fault of their own, or those who never had it in the first place. I mean, I'm not totally cold hearted towards her situation, but on the other hand, it's hard for me to work up a lot of sympathy for her.

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Can't feel any sympathy about the lying. And the doping revelations are no surprise, as athletics cognoscenti have felt for many years that she was dirty. Further, I believe that athletics (track and field) is so dope-ridden that busts have lost their capacity for surprise.

There's something a little strange about Jones's compulsion to dope, though. I recall when she was a sensational high school athlete (track and basketball), and this carried over into college (UNC, iirc). She seemed to have incredible talent. Either: (a) she took drugs because she lacked confidence in her ability; or (b) international athletics is so dirty that it's impossible to win without drugs. If (a), I'd feel this is a tragedy, but I'm more inclined to (b).

[Disclaimer: I used to be a big track and field enthusiast, but have gradually drifted away since the age of EPO, which wreaked havoc on the record books of the distance events I followed.]

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I still think modern athletics would be a lot more entertaining if steroids were legalized and athletes allowed to do/take anything to give them the edge. It'd be great fun to see a ballplayer explode when sliding into home plate or someone like Jones jumping over a house.

I mean, c'mon, you can't unring a bell...

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I still think modern athletics would be a lot more entertaining if steroids were legalized and athletes allowed to do/take anything to give them the edge. It'd be great fun to see a ballplayer explode when sliding into home plate or someone like Jones jumping over a house.

I mean, c'mon, you can't unring a bell...

me, too.

they are going to do it anyway.

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Deep sadness, that's what I felt when I saw Marion Jones on TV.

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she couldnt handle money, either.

the crashing ang burning of a human being is a tragedy generally difficult to watch. i wish the media agreed.

She was obvioulsy spending money as if there was no end to it.

I don't feel sorry for her. It isn't as if she sacrificed and poured every last dime into a a business and it failed.

Jones got rich on a lie and now it's time for reality.

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I still think modern athletics would be a lot more entertaining if steroids were legalized and athletes allowed to do/take anything to give them the edge. It'd be great fun to see a ballplayer explode when sliding into home plate or someone like Jones jumping over a house.

I mean, c'mon, you can't unring a bell...

I agree, but more because it's all obviously just there for entertainment and big big money. This lip service given to the ideals of amateur athletics is ridiculous. It's all just a circus.

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I suspected guilt way back from the start, when she was thrust into the limelight concerning her coach/boyfriend(?) using. There was something about her denials that didn't ring true.

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Paging Dan Gould....

You really want to do that, Goodie?

Now the latest is that Conte has acknowledged giving her the Cream and The Clear. It seems that if anyone wants to fess up, then Conte decides that the "client privilege" no longer applies and he'll start telling the truth.

But this clearly has important implications for Goodie's hero. Number one, it shows that the government will go after you for perjury. And number two, Bonds better hope that no one told Jones that Bonds was a client and was getting this "great stuff" too. Because that will be one more nail in his coffin when she can testify about what she was told.

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Paging Dan Gould....

You really want to do that, Goodie?

Yes.

I really want to do that. :rolleyes:

Now the latest is that Conte has acknowledged giving her the Cream and The Clear. It seems that if anyone wants to fess up, then Conte decides that the "client privilege" no longer applies and he'll start telling the truth.

But this clearly has important implications for Goodie's hero. Number one, it shows that the government will go after you for perjury. And number two, Bonds better hope that no one told Jones that Bonds was a client and was getting this "great stuff" too. Because that will be one more nail in his coffin when she can testify about what she was told.

My hero is Miles Davis.

I don't think he ever played baseball, Dan.

Just a guess.

Besides, Bonds has already said he used the Clear, you know, when it wasn't illegal to do so by MLB rules.

But don't let a few pesky little facts get in the way of your Man Envy, OK?

Carry on.....

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Besides, Bonds has already said he used the Clear, you know, when it wasn't illegal to do so by MLB rules.

Are you really that misinformed?

Bonds has never admitted using the Clear. He claims he was told that it was linseed oil or some such shit. He is now going to be indicted for perjury because he lied when he claimed to not "knowingly" used steroids. Remember? He regularly sent thousands of dollars in cash to BALCO but he never got any of the good stuff. He was the only client not getting steroids.

It is immaterial whether or not MLB and the Player's Association had agreed that use of steroids is not allowed.. His use of them violated Federal law.

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