Durium Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 BOBBY TIMMONS The album This Here Is Bobby Timmons, played by the Bobby Timmons Trio is one of those records that should be in each serious jazz collection. This Here Is Bobby Timmons Keep swinging Durium Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 There's no doubt this is an excellent album. But I prefer his work for Prestige. "Chicken & dumplings", "Soul food", "Chun-king" and "Little barefoot soul" are all great albums. "This here" sounds to me like it's Orrin Keepnews' idea of cashing in on Bobby's three classic compositions, with a few standards thrown in to make up the numbers. The Prestige LPs sound like thought out programmes and I find them most satisfying. MG Quote
Claude Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 Interesting blog entry, as usual I like the album, but I don't consider it that essential. Does anyone know a decent sounding reissue of this album? The one's I have heard (I don't remember which ones, maybe even an XRCD) sound as if the tape was badly damaged or a poor copy was used. Muddy and bloated, like all CD reissues of "Incredible Jazz guitar of Wes Montgomery". Quote
Shawn Posted May 21, 2008 Report Posted May 21, 2008 Good album, I also have to agree that it's not "essential", but definitely enjoyable. Also, not surprisingly, I agree with MG's preference for the Prestige dates. The Timmons release I've enjoyed most recently was the Blakey Jazz Icons DVD from '58, it was cool to be able to watch him perform those tunes...I've always loved concert videos and that's a damn fine one. Quote
Peter Friedman Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 "This Here' is a nice session, but is not one of my favorite Timmons albums. The one's I like best are, with one exception, on Riverside. In Person Easy Does It Born To Be Blue Sweet And Soulful Sounds Soul Time (with Blue Mitchell) I don't care much for most of Timmons Prestige albums. However that one exception I referred to above is "The Soul Man" which happens to be on Prestige. This one also includes some of my favorite playing by Wayne Shorter and Ron Carter. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 "This Here' is a nice session, but is not one of my favorite Timmons albums. The one's I like best are, with one exception, on Riverside. In Person Easy Does It Born To Be Blue Sweet And Soulful Sounds Soul Time (with Blue Mitchell) I don't care much for most of Timmons Prestige albums. However that one exception I referred to above is "The Soul Man" which happens to be on Prestige. This one also includes some of my favorite playing by Wayne Shorter and Ron Carter. You're the piano man, Peter. I like all of those Riverside trio albums you mentioned. What don't you like about the Prestige ones? MG Quote
Peter Friedman Posted May 22, 2008 Report Posted May 22, 2008 "This Here' is a nice session, but is not one of my favorite Timmons albums. The one's I like best are, with one exception, on Riverside. In Person Easy Does It Born To Be Blue Sweet And Soulful Sounds Soul Time (with Blue Mitchell) I don't care much for most of Timmons Prestige albums. However that one exception I referred to above is "The Soul Man" which happens to be on Prestige. This one also includes some of my favorite playing by Wayne Shorter and Ron Carter. You're the piano man, Peter. I like all of those Riverside trio albums you mentioned. What don't you like about the Prestige ones? MG MG, Haven't heard them in quite some time. But as I didn't think much of them when I first acquired them, I disposed of them. My recollection, though admittedly a bit vague, is that they were attempting to "cash in" on the popularity Timmons gained via his" jazz hits" with Cannonball. They seemed to lack a coherent trio feeling and had a sort of less than "authentic" feeling to them. By contrast, the Riversides had strong rhythm sections and , to my taste, swung more and with a greater sense of unity. Now, it is possible that if I heard them again today, my opinion might be different. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 "This Here' is a nice session, but is not one of my favorite Timmons albums. The one's I like best are, with one exception, on Riverside. In Person Easy Does It Born To Be Blue Sweet And Soulful Sounds Soul Time (with Blue Mitchell) I don't care much for most of Timmons Prestige albums. However that one exception I referred to above is "The Soul Man" which happens to be on Prestige. This one also includes some of my favorite playing by Wayne Shorter and Ron Carter. You're the piano man, Peter. I like all of those Riverside trio albums you mentioned. What don't you like about the Prestige ones? MG MG, Haven't heard them in quite some time. But as I didn't think much of them when I first acquired them, I disposed of them. My recollection, though admittedly a bit vague, is that they were attempting to "cash in" on the popularity Timmons gained via his" jazz hits" with Cannonball. They seemed to lack a coherent trio feeling and had a sort of less than "authentic" feeling to them. By contrast, the Riversides had strong rhythm sections and , to my taste, swung more and with a greater sense of unity. Now, it is possible that if I heard them again today, my opinion might be different. Interesting - quite the opposite to me If you run into "Chun-king", or the twofer it's on, going cheap, you might think about trying again. MG Quote
michel1969 Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Interesting blog entry, as usual I like the album, but I don't consider it that essential. Does anyone know a decent sounding reissue of this album? The one's I have heard (I don't remember which ones, maybe even an XRCD) sound as if the tape was badly damaged or a poor copy was used. Muddy and bloated, like all CD reissues of "Incredible Jazz guitar of Wes Montgomery". The problem with Riversides is that even original are often bad sounding. I sold my original stereo pressing during my "only mono nervous breakdown". My psy told me i should now look for a mono DG. Quote
Big Al Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Good blog entry, as usual! Listened to THIS HERE and THE PRESTIGE TRIOS on Rhapsody yesterday, and found THIS HERE to be more enjoyable to my tastes. The songs are compact, bluesy, soulful, energetic, filled with passion and excitement. The Prestige trio dates just seemed to be.... there. IMO only and YMMV. Gonna have to pick up THIS HERE; any opinions on the Fantasy SACD? Quote
Durium Posted May 23, 2008 Author Report Posted May 23, 2008 Good blog entry, as usual! Thank you for the nice words. Keep swinging > 815 x Durium Quote
Claude Posted May 23, 2008 Report Posted May 23, 2008 Gonna have to pick up THIS HERE; any opinions on the Fantasy SACD? Our mikeweil (miguelito54) reviewed it on sa-cd.net http://www.sa-cd.net/showtitle/2543 Quote
DMP Posted May 30, 2008 Report Posted May 30, 2008 "Little Barefoot Soul" - which I've owned since I got a review copy back in college (do college papers review jazz records anymore?) - has always been a disappointment. The liner notes pretty much give it away... Quote
Ron S Posted June 3, 2008 Report Posted June 3, 2008 (edited) it is weird-so much info in that blurb for the cdbaby disc yet it is tough to find the info i would care about most-who's in the band! The late great Timmon's [sic] soulful, swingin' piano along with the soaring sound of Sonny Redd, the steady heart-beat of Sam Jones and the driving power of Mickey Roker, makes for a very special collectors item. Edited June 3, 2008 by Ron S Quote
clifford_thornton Posted June 3, 2008 Report Posted June 3, 2008 Haven't spent much time with the Riversides but enjoy his Contemporary material quite a bit. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 6, 2008 Report Posted June 6, 2008 it is weird-so much info in that blurb for the cdbaby disc yet it is tough to find the info i would care about most-who's in the band! The late great Timmon's [sic] soulful, swingin' piano along with the soaring sound of Sonny Redd, the steady heart-beat of Sam Jones and the driving power of Mickey Roker, makes for a very special collectors item. yes i didn't say it wasn't there. just a pain to find among all the text. imo. That's the album that was originally issued on Chiaroscuro, isn't it? Wonder how it's got onto CD Baby? MG Quote
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