king ubu Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) Anyone has a complete list of the BN Rare Grooves? I found this one (by Noj) on the other forum: BLUE MITCHELL-DOWN WITH IT BOBBI HUMPHREY-SATIN DOLL BOBBY HUTCHERSON-SAN FRANCISCO BROTHER JACK MCDUFF-DOWN HOME STYLE CANDIDO-BEAUTIFUL DONALD BYRD-CARICATURES DONALD BYRD-ELECTRIC BYRD DONALD BYRD-FANCY FREE DONALD BYRD-KOFI DONALD BYRD-PLACES AND SPACES DONALD BYRD-STREET LADY DUKE PEARSON-I DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS IT DUKE PEARSON-SWEET HONEY BEE DUKE PEARSON-THE RIGHT TOUCH EDDIE HENDERSON-SUNBURST GARY BARTZ-MUSIC IS MY SANCTUARY GENE HARRIS AND THE THREE SOUNDS-LIVE AT THE "IT" CLUB (2 vols) GRANT GREEN-ALIVE GRANT GREEN-CARRYIN' ON GRANT GREEN-GREEN IS BEAUTIFUL *** NEW IN LIST *** Grant Green - Blues for Lou JACK MCDUFF-MOON RAPPIN' JIMMY MCGRIFF-ELECTRIC FUNK JIMMY MCGRIFF-THE WORM JOHN PATTON-ACCENT ON THE BLUES JOHN PATTON-BOOGALOO JOHN PATTON-GOT A GOOD THING GOIN' ON JOHN PATTON-LET 'EM ROLL JOHN PATTON-MEMPHIS TO NEW YORK SPIRIT JOHN PATTON-UNDERSTANDING LONNIE SMITH-DRIVES LONNIE SMITH-LIVE AT THE CLUB MOZAMBIQUE LONNIE SMITH-MOVE YOUR HAND LOU DONALDSON-EVERYTHING I PLAY IS FUNKY LOU DONALDSON-GOOD GRACIOUS LOU DONALDSON-MR.SHING-A-LING LOU DONALDSON-PRETTY THINGS LOU DONALDSON-THE SCORPION - LIVE AT THE CADILLAC CLUB REUBEN WILSON-BLUE MODE REUBEN WILSON-LOVE BUG RICHARD GROOVE HOLMES-COMIN' ON HOME RONNIE FOSTER-TWO HEADED FREAP STANLEY TURRENTINE-COMMON TOUCH STANLEY TURRENTINE-EASY WALKER VARIOUS ARTISTS-BLUE NOTE RARE GROOVES VARIOUS ARTISTS-BLUE BREAK BEATS (VOLUME 1) VARIOUS ARTISTS-BLUE BREAK BEATS (VOLUME 2) VARIOUS ARTISTS-BLUE BREAK BEATS (VOLUME 3) VARIOUS ARTISTS-BLUE BREAK BEATS (VOLUME 4) VARIOUS ARTISTS-THE LOST GROOVES The batch previous to the new ones consted of the following (included above) and was released in 2002: Gary Bartz - Music Is My Sanctuary* Donald Byrd - Caricatures* Candido - Beautiful Eddie Henderson - Sunburst Richard Groove Holmes - Comin' On Home Bobbi Humphrey - Satin Doll Jack McDuff - Moon Rappin' Jimmy McGriff - The Worm John Patton - Got a Good Thing Goin' *) I'm not sure these are Rare Grooves - I think at least the Bartz I've also seen as one of those French BN reissues (those with miniature liners, that run of discs also included an Alphonse Mouzon album, Eddie Gale's "Black Rhythm Happening" and some others which I don't remember). The new batch (2008) is: Eddie Henderson - Heritage Bobbi Humphrey - Fancy Dancer Jeremy Steig - Howlin' for Judy Three Sounds - Soul Symphony Three Sounds - Elegant Soul Reuben Wilson - Set Us Free how about: Bobbi Humphrey - Black and Blue Lou Donaldson - The Midnight Creeper Were these Rare Grooves as well? I'm a bit confused as several I have aren't packed with clear trays and the spine "Rare Grooves" logo (i.e. The Midnight Creeper, Love Bug, Green's Alive). Is there anything missing from the list? Edited November 26, 2008 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I don't believe Midnight Creeper was, can't speak for Black and Blue though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Pretty sure LET 'EM ROLL was not a Rare Groove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Pretty sure LET 'EM ROLL was not a Rare Groove. That one is! It was the in the first series (with the white inlay trays) and not clearly marked as Rare Grooves. Others in that first series are Byrd's Fancy Free and Pearson's Sweet Honey Bee. I also believe Smith's Drives was in there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 So it seems the list is too long rather than too short - or is there anything missing? I haven't followed the Rare Grooves for way too long, only just got "Memphis to New York Spirit", for instance, and I'm still missing out on many of those (got several of the Donaldsons and Pattons though, about half o the 2002 batch, and all but the Steig and the Humphrey from the new ones!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I don't think any of the Lou Donaldsons have been Rare Grooves, except "Scorpion". There were a few issued in Britain only, I think, which were kind of Rare Grooves - "Let 'em roll", "Alive", "Sweet honey bee" I can pull out and see had a kind of different design from the usual run of BN reissues, but also weren't Rare Grooves. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 (edited) I don't think any of the Lou Donaldsons have been Rare Grooves, except "Scorpion". MG Good Gracious, Everything I play is Funky were and I believe Hot Dog may have been too (I think it was part of that first series of RG's) or it could've been Pretty Things. Alive, too, was part of that first series that wasn't clearly marked as Rare Grooves (kind of like how the first series (1994) of Conn's weren't clearly marked either (except for the OBI strip). Those first RG's, however, did not have OBI strips so they were even harder to identify. Edited November 25, 2008 by Holy Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I don't think any of the Lou Donaldsons have been Rare Grooves, except "Scorpion". MG Good Gracious, Everything I play is Funky were and I believe Hot Dog may have been too (I think it was part of that first series of RG's) or it could've been Pretty Things. Alive, too, was part of that first series that wasn't clearly marked as Rare Grooves (kind of like how the first series (1994) of Conn's weren't clearly marked either (except for the OBI strip). Those first RG's, however, did not have OBI strips so they were even harder to identify. Ah, I don't have "Everything I play" on CD. You're right about "Pretty things" being part of the same release as the others I mentioned that looked a bit different. They all came out in 1993; the earliest Rare Grooves I can find - I confess I haven't looked through them exhausstively - are from 1995. By the way - Jack McDuff's "Down home style" was a Rare Groove. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Here are the ones I can confirm being Rare Grooves (I own them) - from among the earlier batches: Brother Jack McDuff - Down Home Style Donald Byrd - Kofi Grant Green - Carryin' On *** NEW IN LIST *** Grant Green - Blues for Lou John Patton - Boogaloo John Patton - Memphis to New York Spirit John Patton - Understanding Lonnie Smith - Live at the Club Mozambique Lou Donaldson - Everything I Play Is Funky Lou Donaldson - Good Gracious Lou Donaldson - Mr. Shing-A-Ling Lou Donaldson - The Scorpion Stanley Turrentine - Common Touch Stanley Turrentine - Easy Walker I also have: Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco Grant Green - Alive Grant Green - Live at the Lighthouse Reuben Wilson - Love Bug Lou Donaldson - Midnight Creeper but those aren't marked as RGs in any way. About the batch that included Green's Blues for Lou and Donaldson's Everything I Play Is Funky - that was the one preceeding the final one from 2002. Wasn't that some kind of "previously unissued sessions" batch? I dimly seem to remember, but I don't have any True Blue catalogues from back then to check (I throw this stuff away, mostly...) And how about Lou Donaldson's "Alligator Boogaloo"? Never saw that... part of the series or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco but those aren't marked as RGs in any way. About the batch that included Green's Blues for Lou and Donaldson's Everything I Play Is Funky - that was the one preceeding the final one from 2002. Wasn't that some kind of "previously unissued sessions" batch? I dimly seem to remember, but I don't have any True Blue catalogues from back then to check (I throw this stuff away, mostly...) And how about Lou Donaldson's "Alligator Boogaloo"? Never saw that... part of the series or not? strange, i would have thought blues for lou was a conn, and i am 85% sure, my copy of San Francisco is marked as a Rare Groove somehow... don't have it here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) San Francisco is NOT a rare groove. Regular issue from the 90's. (so Niko you're 15 % sane!!!) Edited November 26, 2008 by Bluerein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 San Francisco is NOT a rare groove. Regular issue from the 90's. (so Niko you're 15 % sane!!!) ok let me risk the remaining 15% according to the list here http://www.organissimo.org/forum/lofiversi...php/t25095.html blues for lou was part of this batch of conns Series XI (1999) Grant Green – Blues for Lou Bobby Hutcherson – The Kicker Jimmy Smith – Six Views of the Blues Art Blakey – Drums Around The Corner Lou Donaldson – A Man with a Horn Dizzy Reece – Comin’ On Various Artists – The Lost Sessions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 i know we don't qoute aaj over here but what about this "Not all Rare Groove CDs have "Rare Groove Series" in the inside spine. The earliest issues, such as my copy of Bobby Hutcherson's San Francisco, merely had a round "Rare Groove" sticker on the front." http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=12785 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluerein Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 That sticker must have been added to make it more selleable to a wider audience. The CD issue itself was from way before the series even was invented by Tom and Michael (and Bob maybe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 but those aren't marked as RGs in any way. strange, i would have thought blues for lou was a conn, and i am 85% sure, my copy of San Francisco is marked as a Rare Groove somehow... don't have it here... sorry for the confusion but that remark quoted from my post only applied to the listing preceeding it! and thanks for listing that "unreleased sessions" batch, you're correct of course, those were Conns not RGs - but at least in those two cases they could have just as well been Rare Grooves! so once more sorry for the confusion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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