Funny Rat

[Д.Д.]

Does anyone know of a good source for FMR discs in the U.S.? My usual sources seem to be coming up empty.

Buy directly from the label, they have good shipping rates and accept PayPal.

Yesterday, during the Brötzmann tentet concert saw a Brötzmann / Zerang duo live release "Live in Beirut" on Lebanese Al Maslakh label. Didn't feel in the mood to shell out CHF 30 for it (got two Lonberg-Holm CD-Rs, one of them being a duo with Carlos Zingaro ( ), instead).

Will write about the concert later. In short - it was good, and totally different from what I saw/heard four years ago.

Edited May 22, 2006 by Д.Д.

[Guest Chaney]

Anyone know of a source for Duns Limited disks? Ordering directly from Paul Dunmall is (for me) prohibitively expensive. DMG has a very impressive list of titles but with few of them actually in stock ("NLA"), what the heck is the point?

Also, anyone know if Dunmall represses these things? (Yea, I know: limited.) I could have sworn there were around fifteen that were OOP but I now see that there's only five NLA.

Edited May 22, 2006 by Chaney

[jon abbey]

DMG has a very impressive list of titles but with few of them actually in stock ("NLA"), what the heck is the point?

DMG's web site isn't so accurate in terms of what they actually have, you should give them a call or send them an e-mail and see what they've actually got.

[Guest Chaney]

Thanks Jon. That didn't occur to me. I'll send DMG a questioning e-mail.

[7/4]

Thanks Jon. That didn't occur to me. I'll send DMG a questioning e-mail.

Ask for Manny and be very difficult with him.

[Guest Chaney]

Ask for Manny and be very difficult with him.

Good idea. Maybe I'll also call on a Friday and be scolded for doing so. :bwallace2:

[7/4]

Ask for Manny and be very difficult with him.

Good idea. Maybe I'll also call on a Friday and be scolded for doing so. :bwallace2:

I think you have to call in the evenings to talk to Manny.

I wonder who was abusing you on a Friday...I can guess, but I think I know. Friday is a busy walk in retail day...they're busy prepping for all music junkies who just cashed their pay checks.

[.:.impossible]

Related, Stephen Flynn will be playing solo at DMG June 4.

[P.L.M]

Long time not play the game of the "list":

Some drummers that I like more than others:

MARK SANDERS

STEVE NOBLE (maybe my favorite actually)

HAMID DRAKE

RASHIED ALI

DONALD ROBINSON

TOM RAINEY

KEVIN NORTON

GERRY HEMINGWAY

SUSIE IBARRA

ALEX CLINE

DON MOYE

EDDIE PREVOST

LOUIS MOHOLO(-MOHOLO)

JOHNNY McLELLAN

TONY OXLEY

PAUL LYTTON

PAUL LOVENS

DANIEL HUMAIR

RAMON LOPEZ

CHRISTOPHE MARGUET

ERIC ECHAMPARD

BURKHARD BEINS

JEFF "TAIN" WATTS

BRIAN BLADE

PAUL HESSION

WARREN SMITH

JIM BLACK

RANDY PETERSON

MICHAEL ZERANG

HARRIS EINSENSTADT

SVEN-AKE JOHANSSON

REGGIE NICHOLSON

Edited May 24, 2006 by P.L.M

[.:.impossible]

No Wolleson or Amendola? Graves? Alvin Fielder? Alvin Fielder. Steve McCall? Cyrille? Bill Stewart. Bob Gullotti!

I like your list because it covers a broad range of drummers, stylistically. These guys fit into your list well. If you aren't familiar, check them out in no particular order.

[Д.Д.]

FMRCD119 INNOVATION Amalgam

Already paid for the order so it's too late for me to make changes. Still, any thoughts on these discs?

i really like that amalgam disc. it might be too prosaic for a funny ratt-er? it is weird. i don't know too much tippett, but i would imagine this is one of his most straight performances. but it is isn't a straight set. just sort of rhythmically um plodding?

Got this one, and it is beautiful. Watts has such a gorgrous forceful alto sound; Tippett is joyfully extatic (this is not that mainstream for Tippett, actually - his (excellent) discs from late-60s / early-70s (reissued most recently on Disconforme - with Tippett's permission, for a change) are quite easy-listening), and Kent Carter's bass is nice. For me the only quibble is John Stevens too straight-ahead heavy-handed drumming on one (last) track. But overall, an excellent disc.

Gokhan, what do you think of it?

[Д.Д.]

No Wolleson or Amendola? Graves? Alvin Fielder? Alvin Fielder. Steve McCall? Cyrille? Bill Stewart. Bob Gullotti!

I like your list because it covers a broad range of drummers, stylistically. These guys fit into your list well. If you aren't familiar, check them out in no particular order.

Bill Stewart - yes. Cyrille, Graves and Fielder I like, but they are not among the very favorite drummers.

What was the last thing Rashied Ali recorded? Does he still play (well)?

[P.L.M]

No Wolleson or Amendola? Graves? Alvin Fielder? Alvin Fielder. Steve McCall? Cyrille? Bill Stewart. Bob Gullotti!

I like your list because it covers a broad range of drummers, stylistically. These guys fit into your list well. If you aren't familiar, check them out in no particular order.

MILFORD GRAVES ? Sure, but he doesn't play much, lately.

MAcCALL is dead, alas, and CYRILLE has disappoint me too often lately.

There are lot of drummer that I like but who belongs, IMO, to history like SUNNY MURRAY or HAN BENNINK (the clownish side of the dutch is completely hiding, nowadays, the incredible talent of the drummer).

I could name lot of others, like MAX ROACH or ROY HAYNES but that's no news to no one and it's not the purpose of this list.

What's yours?

[P.L.M]

What was the last thing Rashied Ali recorded? Does he still play (well)?

I think that he is still in activity.

Most recent record of ALI I had is a DIW "called LIVE AT TONIC" and recorded in 2001 with LOUIE BELOGENIS and WILBER MORRIS.

A good record where ALI plays with his usual skill.

Edited May 24, 2006 by P.L.M

[gnhrtg]

FMRCD119 INNOVATION Amalgam

Already paid for the order so it's too late for me to make changes. Still, any thoughts on these discs?

i really like that amalgam disc. it might be too prosaic for a funny ratt-er? it is weird. i don't know too much tippett, but i would imagine this is one of his most straight performances. but it is isn't a straight set. just sort of rhythmically um plodding?

Got this one, and it is beautiful. Watts has such a gorgrous forceful alto sound; Tippett is joyfully extatic (this is not that mainstream for Tippett, actually - his (excellent) discs from late-60s / early-70s (reissued most recently on Disconforme - with Tippett's permission, for a change) are quite easy-listening), and Kent Carter's bass is nice. For me the only quibble is John Stevens too straight-ahead heavy-handed drumming on one (last) track. But overall, an excellent disc.

Gokhan, what do you think of it?

There was a misunderstanding about this (and The Onliest's Pictures From a Monk Exhibtion) so I only received it today. I'll try to listen to it on Friday.

[Д.Д.]

There are lot of drummer that I like but who belongs, IMO, to history like SUNNY MURRAY or HAN BENNINK (the clownish side of the dutch is completely hiding, nowadays, the incredible talent of the drummer).

I thought the same of Bennink till I heard him on Chat Room - a duo with Simon Nabatov on Leo. Bennink can still play wonderfully.

More drummers: I remember being quite amazed by Billy Kilson's work in Dave Holland's quintet when I saw them live. I have him on trio record with Tim Hagans - gotta revisit that disc.

Joe LaBarbera is very good (I'm thinking of his contribution to Anthony Ortega's "Scattered Clouds"); and Phil Haynes.

Edited May 24, 2006 by Д.Д.

[Guest Chaney]

Gino Robair

Garth Powell

And a big YES to Mark Sanders.

[Д.Д.]

Anyone already heard this new Leo release?

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Mulhouse Jazz Festival, August 21-26

Edited May 25, 2006 by Д.Д.

[P.L.M]

There are lot of drummer that I like but who belongs, IMO, to history like SUNNY MURRAY or HAN BENNINK (the clownish side of the dutch is completely hiding, nowadays, the incredible talent of the drummer).

I thought the same of Bennink till I heard him on Chat Room - a duo with Simon Nabatov on Leo. Bennink can still play wonderfully.

To hear HAN BENNINK on record and to hear him live is two different things.

On record, when he is not in a "clownish" envirronement (like with CHADBOURNE, by example) he surely can play.

Live, I'm afraid that it is a lost cause. It seems that he is not able to refrain his exhibitionnism anymore.

Most of the concerts where he is involved that I've seen, turn to be a mess quickly, like a promising duo with COR FULHER few years ago who ended as a disaster.

Edited May 25, 2006 by P.L.M

[Guest Chaney]

Anyone already heard this new Leo release?

I have it on preorder but it's not available to us lowly Americans until June 20.

[Д.Д.]

There are lot of drummer that I like but who belongs, IMO, to history like SUNNY MURRAY or HAN BENNINK (the clownish side of the dutch is completely hiding, nowadays, the incredible talent of the drummer).

I thought the same of Bennink till I heard him on Chat Room - a duo with Simon Nabatov on Leo. Bennink can still play wonderfully.

To hear HAN BENNINK on record and to hear him live is two different things.

On record, when he is not in a "clownish" envirronement (like with CHADBOURNE, by example) he surely can play.

Live, I'm afraid that it is a lost cause. It seems that he is not able to refrain his exhibitionnism anymore.

Most of the concerts where he is involved that I've seen, turn to be a mess quickly, like a promising duo with COR FULHER few years ago who ended as a disaster.

I agree. I saw Bennink live with Misha Mengelberg several month ago, and all this clownship (at the detriment of music) was very disappointing.

Bennink with Fuhler indeed sounds potentially very interesting.

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Plan to go to the following concert on Saturday:

> Boris Baltschun / Serge Baghdassarians

VARIATIONEN OHNE THEMA

> Lucio Capece / Axel Dörner DUO

Axel Dörner > Trompete

Lucio Capece > Bassklarinette, Sopransaxophon

Edited May 25, 2006 by Д.Д.

[jon abbey]

Plan to go to the following concert on Saturday:

> Boris Baltschun / Serge Baghdassarians

VARIATIONEN OHNE THEMA

> Lucio Capece / Axel Dörner DUO

Axel Dörner > Trompete

Lucio Capece > Bassklarinette, Sopransaxophon

nice, I'd go check that out too. Lucio and Axel have a duo CD in the works on the Slovenian label l'innomable, nice stuff. Boris and Serge have recently released a few things, including a duo disc on Charhizma and a trio disc on Absinth with Burkhard Beins that I have yet to hear, sadly.

[Guest Chaney]

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Best wishes,

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[Guest Chaney]

Plan to go to the following concert on Saturday:

> Boris Baltschun / Serge Baghdassarians

VARIATIONEN OHNE THEMA

> Lucio Capece / Axel Dörner DUO

Axel Dörner > Trompete

Lucio Capece > Bassklarinette, Sopransaxophon

How were the shows? (Especially the Dorner. Is there a better trumpet player around today? Love Dorner.)

[king ubu]

David, how was the Brotz gang? They got quite a good review here!

On Bennink: I saw the ICP orchestra last november and that was one of the most beautiful concerts I've seen of late... Bennink did not clown around at all.

How about Michael Vatcher? I thought he was wonderful with Michael Moore and Lindsay Horner when I saw them with their Dylan outfit, "Jewels and Binocculars".