Looking for artists on this LP

[sdx]

I've looked all over, but can't find a track list of this lp. I would like to know who the performers are.

LP: "Jazz in der Tschechoslowakei in 1961" (Supraphon SUC 15388)

Thanks in advance if someone can help!

sdx

Edited January 19, 2010 by sdx

[Niko]

hard to find anything definitive... apparently:

Gustav Brom is on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustav_Brom

Yancy Körössy is on it:

http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1nos_K%C5%91r%C3%B6ssy there it says:

Diversi muzicieni: Karel Krautgartner, Gustav Brom, Karel Vlach

here's a track list:

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildata.php?itemnr=4058469536

Semaphor

Blues auf der Haltestelle

In memoriam Oscar Pettifords

Concertion für Alt-sax & Jazz-Orchester

Vindobona

Der Herr mit dem Zylinder

Fullhand

Ein Segelboot

Der alte blues

Der zweite Versuch

and it says: artist: Studio 5 Group (feat: Ianci Körössy), Orchestra Gustav Brom, Jazz Studio Prag, Karel Krautgartner Orchester, Metronom Combo

and:

modern-piano-jazz album, featuring: GUSTAV BROM, IANCY KÖRÖSSY, JARMILA VESELA, KAREL RUZICKA, KAREL KRAUTGARTNER, KAREL VELEBNY

and here:

http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34532&mode=threaded&pid=658111

couw gave the details to one track:

Track 13. Jazz Studio 5 – Blues z refyze [blues auf der Haltestelle / Bus Stop Blues] (L. Hulan)

Recorded 1961 at Supraphon Studio, Prague (ČSSR)

Released on “Jazz in der Tschechoslowakei 1961” [VA] (Supraphon SUC 15388)

Richard Kubernát, tp; Artur Holitzer, vtb; Karel Velebný, ts, vib; Jan Konopásek, bars; Vladimír Tomek, g; Ludĕk Hulan, b; Ivo Dominák, ds.

The original constellation of this subgroup of players from Karel Krautgartner’s Radio Big Band consisted of Velebný, Konopásek, Tomek, Hulan and Dominák. Soon Holitzer completed the core group, but increasingly guest players were involved. Moreover, the group, whose main influences include the MJQ, Mulligan and JJ/Kay, often played in small theatres, supporting stage activities. This particular track was part of a pantomime which included several scenes of the city, one of which involved people waiting at a bus stop.

Another pretty cool arrangement we have here with some more very cool sounds (eyyyy). The theme is slim, but smart, like many of Hulan’s compositions. The vibes are fabulous in how they drop in there out of the blue all of a sudden. Very laid back style there. Guest trumpeteer Kubernát from the Radio Dance Band plays some urgent tones in a, for him, untypical muted style. Then bass solo and I think it’s pretty cool they left the guitar in the can until here. These guys are much concerned about how their group sounds and make some fine decisions.

Pity about the sound quality for sure; I guess these early 60s Supraphons need a special needle or record player to sound good

here is a scan of the track list with (I guess) composer names

http://i.ebayimg.com/08/!BddUlQ!Bmk~$(KGrHqUH-DEErQMhy7+dBK5FeQhul!~~_12.JPG

finally, this site is dreadful to read but it seems to have the complete (edit: not quite complete compared with couws information, but still...)discography for the album

http://www.dismarc.org/index.php?form=display&db=0&oaiid=KKA/MED000053089%20

Edited January 19, 2010 by Niko

[brownie]

The Lord Discography has a listing for several tracks from the LP.

Full of unknown (to non-Czechs) names except for Jan Arnet who plays bass on 'Fullhand'.

[Big Beat Steve]

Brownie, these names actually aren't that unknown. Gustav BROM was extremely well-known all over Europe. And Karel Krautgartner and Ludek Hulan as well as Jan Konopasek (among the sidemen) had made themselves a good name too. And Karel Vlach had been a major name since the 40s.

Anyway, @ sdx ...

... it is true that there is not track list as such on the back cover that gives a clear indication of which band is featured on which track. This may seem odd but has to be seen in the light of the age of the record as this was not all that unknown on European vinyl of the 50s, particularly in Austria and Germany, though usually on budget-type labels and not on such elaborate presentations as this fold-out cover LP with pasted-in booklet.

Actually the answer to your question is in front of you if you have the album: Those who are familiar with the GERMAN language of the liner notes (and assuming they go to the trouble of reading them, which after all is what liner notes are there for, and these are pretty instructive) will find their answers there (others will have to deduce from the track titles in italics which bands they belong to) as the individual bands and their musical samples are taken care of one after another.

Therefore:

Tanzorchester des Tschechoslowakischen Rundfunks (Karel Krautgartner) = Concertino für Alt-Saxophon und Jazz-Orchester

Jazz-Studio 5 = Der Herr mit dem Zylinder / Blues auf der Haltestelle

Ferdinand Havlik = Semaphor

Metronom Combo = Der zweite Versuch

Prager Dixieland Band = Fullhand

Karel Vlach = Vindobona / Der alte Blues

Gustav Brom = In Memoriam Oscar Pettiford / Dudelsackmotiv / Segelboot

So there y'are ...

Edited January 19, 2010 by Big Beat Steve

[B. Clugston]

Karel Velebney had an album out on ESP.

[brownie]

OK! This is what I could find...

Ferdinand Havlik - Semafor

Ladislav Panek (tb) Ferdinand Havlik (as) Joszef Strudl (ts) Karel Ruzicka (p) Vaclav Hora (b) Jiri Kysilka (d). Prague, June 2, 1961

Prague Dixieland - Full hand

Karel Danda (tp,cnt) Frantisek Kunc (tb) Zdenek Majer (cl) Zdenek Camrda (p,ldr) Ludvik Svab (g) Jan Arnett (b) Stepan Jaroschy (d) Prague, June 20, 1961

Karel Valch And His Orchesta - Vindobona

Richard Kubernat, Jiri Jelinek, Miroslav Bures, Vlastimil Hala (tp) Vladimir Raska, Ladislav Pikart, Ivan Matejcek, Zdenek Kopecky (tb) Jaromir Honzak, Jaroslav Kopacek (as) Milan Ulrich, Miroslav Rucker (ts) Vladimir Tymich (bar) Jiri Baur (p) Miroslav Kefurt (g) Jaroslav Kral (b) Vladimir Zizka (d) Karel Vlach (cond). Prague, January 28, 1959

Gustav Brom: In Memorian Oscar Pettiford

Alfa Smid (tp) Stanislav Vesely (tb) Frantisek Navratil (as) Josef Audes (bar) Oldrich Blaha (p) Antonin Julina (g) Eduard Vizcary (b) Vaclav Skala (d). Prague, January 5, 1961

Gustav Brom The Sailboat - Dudelsackmotiv

Alfa Smid, Jaromir Hnilicka, Lubomir Rezanina (tp) Stanislav Vesely (tb) Jan Kulisek (fhr) Frantisek Navratil (as) Zdenek Novak, Bronislav Horak (ts) Josef Audes (bar) Oldrich Blaha (p) Antonin Julina (g) E. Vizvary (b) Vaclav Skala (d). Prague, May 4, 1961

[Niko]

Gustav Brom: In Memorian Oscar Pettiford

Alfa Smid (tp) Stanislav Vesely (tb) Frantisek Navratil (as) Josef Audes (bar) Oldrich Blaha (p) Antonin Julina (g) Eduard Vizcary (b) Vaclav Skala (d). Prague, January 5, 1961

funny, that last link i gave has a bigger line-up (more similar to but not quite the same as on the other Brom session) and most notably adds Edmond Hall on clarinet on the three tracks...

Edited January 20, 2010 by Niko

[Big Beat Steve]

Don't have the LP and its liner notes on hand right now to check but the photograph(s) illustrating the paragraph on Gustav Brom in the liner note booklet DEFINITELY show the Brom band performing with Edmond Hall as the featured soloist.

Would they unnecessarily create false expectations by showing a featured star who does not actually perform?

[brownie]

Edmond Hall did record for Supraphon with the Gustav Brom orchestra in Brno.

A June 1960 that produced four sides:

- Swingin'

- Sweet Georgia Brown

- Weary Blues

- Dawn on the Desert

The four sides were later released on a Rarities LP that also included four rare sides by the Texas Blues Destroyers (with Bubber Miley)!

Would love to listen to all these!

[Big Beat Steve]

Edmond Hall did record for Supraphon with the Gustav Brom orchestra in Brno.

A June 1960 that produced four sides:

- Swingin'

- Sweet Georgia Brown

- Weary Blues

- Dawn on the Desert

That would be this one ...

And Ed Hall indeed does not seem to be present on the 3 Gustav Brom tracks on the above LP.

[clifford_thornton]

Karel Velebney had an album out on ESP.

Yeah, it's not bad. I have another on Supraphon (there are apparently several), Motus, which is decent. Jiri Stivin knocks me out.

Carry on...