JSngry Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I've only always ever seen this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Never saw it. Is us a US issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I"ve never seen that cover either, or this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 That's the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I"ve never seen that cover either, or this one: That's the first. That's the one I've got, bought it ca. 1974-75. Didn't come across the later version until years later (which means nothing, really, because UA had pretty much purged the SS catalog IIRC, and what you found in the mid-70s was "already there"...) As for the cover in the first post, I don't know its origin. Just came across it online. It looks older, the font & everything, like the Jones/Lewis albums w/Ruth Brown & Joe Williams I"ve never seen that cover either, or this one: That's the first. That's the one I've got, bought it ca. 1974-75. Didn't come across the later version until years later (which means nothing, really, because UA had pretty much purged the SS catalog IIRC, and what you found in the mid-70s was "already there"...) As for the cover in the first post, I don't know its origin. Just came across it online. It looks older, the font & everything, like the Jones/Lewis albums w/Ruth Brown & Joe Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 The cover design was pulled after Lorraine billed Sonny Lester for the use of the Vanguard's stepladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 The cover design was pulled after Lorraine billed Sonny Lester for the use of the Vanguard's stepladder. Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 Must be true - that definitely looks like the view of the east side of 7th Ave, directly across from the Vanguard. No, wait a minute, I might be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I was jesting about the stepladder. Or was I? Never seen that cover. I've always seen the same one you've seen. Maybe an early issue, pulled for having an unreadable title and a silly photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 16, 2010 Report Share Posted February 16, 2010 I"ve never seen that cover either, or this one: UK United Artists LP issue also has that design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASNL77 Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 I"ve never seen that cover either, or this one: UK United Artists LP issue also has that design. Correct. I've got that version too. Sound is not too rotten! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 The Thad & Mel vinyl Mosaic set sounds better - sans reverb ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Missed the Mosaic (dammit), but in my experience, "modern" big band w/o some kind of reverb (even it it's just hall sound) gets pretty claustrophobic pretty fast. Did the SS studio recordings have some kind of natural reverb? Seems like they would, since they don't sound really tightly, inndividually miked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 Going from memory, the SS releases had excessive "show biz gloss" added. Don't have the Mosaic, only a couple of discs reissued on BN and they sound fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 In the producer's note at the end of Mosaic set, Cuscuna speaks of Malcom Addey's remixing of the master tapes as "eliminating a lot of ... tape hiss, compression, and artificial echo." Chuck's "show biz gloss" is how I recall the sound of SS releases I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I've got the SS issues, and "gloss", yeah, that's right. What I was wondering about was what was left after that gloss was removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 I've got the SS issues, and "gloss", yeah, that's right. What I was wondering about was what was left after that gloss was removed. I'll check and report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted February 19, 2010 Report Share Posted February 19, 2010 Did some sampling of the Mosaic, and I'd say that the four-track Vanguard recordings, original engineers either Phil Ramone or Addey, were miked rather closely (no doubt of necessity) and thus when remixed as Cuscana describes above, sound quite clear and have considerable punch (Richard Davis!) but are a tad dry. The following "Central Park North" studio date, recorded in eight track and originally engineered by Don Hahn, pretty much leaps out of the speakers, though I have heard big band recordings that have more room ambience. A&R Studios apparently was not Columbia's 30th St. Studio. Don't have any SS originals to make that sort of comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted February 20, 2010 Report Share Posted February 20, 2010 I am obssessed with Sonny Lester. Gotta love a guy who had a label as cool as Groove Merchant, and who also did "How to Strip for your Husband" and "How to Belly Dance for your Husband" albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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