Description of Organissimo Community?

[Hot Ptah]

Professor Craig Thompson has published an article in The Journal of Consumer Research about the "hipster phenomenon as a marketplace myth".

http://onwisconsin.uwalumni.com/departments/unhappy-hipsters/

The parts I like are:

"...the kinds of culture that Thompson calls 'indie'. This is an area of culture that requires a great deal of investment--if not in money, then in knowledge--to learn the cultural references that will make them fit in with other members of the indie community....'They are becoming a taste culture, and they have to acquire considerable...knowledge and cultivate particular aethestic tastes and sensibilities. They also form a network of social relationships and gain status within those networks."

Subsitute the word "jazz" for "indie" and I think that this is a description of any online jazz board community.

[Dan Gould]

Then think about the subtle but critical changes that would make it applicable to "communities" like the Hoffman forums.

[John L]

Jazz is more enjoyable than indie. So I am alright with the substitution. The bottom line here is still the music.

Right...?

[Hot Ptah]

Jazz is more enjoyable than indie. So I am alright with the substitution. The bottom line here is still the music.

Right...?

Of course.

[JSngry]

Thompson and Arsel took a deep look at a group of individuals whom many might tag as hipsters: twenty-one Madisonians between the ages of nineteen and thirty-five who had a strong interest in independent music. These individuals persisted in doing things that garner a hipster label, even though it engages a negative stereotype. The reason for this, Thomp-son and Arsel determined, is in part because those so-called hipsters didn’t set out to become hipsters, but rather were labeled as such by others. Instead, their interests and tastes tend to gravitate toward non-mainstream music, film, and art — the kinds of culture that Thompson calls “indie.” This is an area of culture that requires a great deal of investment — if not in money, then in knowledge — to learn the cultural references that will make them fit in with other members of the indie community.

“When individuals embrace a social identity, they are not just brandishing a set of consumer goods,” Thompson says. “They are becoming part of a taste culture, and they have to acquire considerable … knowledge and cultivate particular aesthetic tastes and sensibilities. They also form a network of social relationships and gain status within those networks. … They are making investments in acquiring social and cultural capital.”

Thompson enjoys studying youth culture, which he says is an ongoing passion, as “it involves the majority of college students.” But he has no great desire to delve deeper into hipsterism.

“That work,” he says, “is more or less complete.”

Yeah, some people just like what they like because they like it and don't give a rat's ass about bullshit like "taste culture", "social and cultural capital", and -especially - about being labeled and "studied" by voyeuristic pus-heads like these clowns, whose "work" somehow gets legitimized by other pus-heads & results in the compulsion to always, always, look at people as "types". Enter at your own risk.

Can we just go ahead and pop all their pus-heads and get back to just naturally being ourselves? Please?

[.:.impossible]

I'm here to learn how to look cool. Online.

[Jazzmoose]

Yeah, some people just like what they like because they like it and don't give a rat's ass about bullshit like "taste culture", "social and cultural capital", and -especially - about being labeled and "studied" by voyeuristic pus-heads like these clowns, whose "work" somehow gets legitimized by other pus-heads & results in the compulsion to always, always, look at people as "types". Enter at your own risk.

Can we just go ahead and pop all their pus-heads and get back to just naturally being ourselves? Please?

Well, of course you'd say that; you're the type that would...

[Rooster_Ties]

Hipster music should at least come with some sort of warning stating that those who listen to it are probably hipsters.

Then no one would have the excuse they didn't know.

[JSngry]

Yeah, some people just like what they like because they like it and don't give a rat's ass about bullshit like "taste culture", "social and cultural capital", and -especially - about being labeled and "studied" by voyeuristic pus-heads like these clowns, whose "work" somehow gets legitimized by other pus-heads & results in the compulsion to always, always, look at people as "types". Enter at your own risk.

Can we just go ahead and pop all their pus-heads and get back to just naturally being ourselves? Please?

Well, of course you'd say that; you're the type that would...

Not good enough, Moose. You gotta have jargon and nomenclature and conveniently simplified slogan-names.

The object is to label groups of types so those groups can be managed as such, and then the members of each group sublimate any errant tendencies to the overriding group traits. Managing individuals is difficult, at times impossible, and occasionally creates ambivalence. Managing groups of types is easy, becuse the answers are in plae before the questions even occurs.

They got management seminars out the wazzoo about this shit, ladies and gentlemen. How to run a better X by identifying and learning how to handle the Five Types Of Worker or some whit like that. Once you allow yourself to be reduced to a "type", the possibility of ever being a nuanced individual are gone for good. Extrapolate that out to society at large and what have you got? A moving company of a culture that only moves boxes and never botheres to look at how those boxes have been packed.

At some point thre will be a reckoning.....Choose wisely & expect the consequences or else don't even dare/bother to complain.

[David Ayers]

We are just nerdy guys obsessed with old records of music that in its time wasn't all that good and now just seems lame. And what about our other carefully cultivated tastes and sensibilities? Without supermarket jeans and a ketchup stained t-shirt you'd never get ON a board like this. And as for our shared liking for pizza - in-group or what? So yeah, we're all like hipsters, yeah. Uh, sorry should have said "Yeah, Man!". Orooney.

[Jazzmoose]

Not good enough, Moose. You gotta have jargon and nomenclature and conveniently simplified slogan-names.

Nah. I'm the type that thinks that's too much work.

[medjuck]

I think it's more that the internet has allowed individuals with distinctive interests but belonged to no peer group to form communities.

Edited March 8, 2011 by medjuck