Dave James Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) The New York Times announced today that its policy will be changing with regard to free online access. Under this new program, those reading on-line content will be able to view only 20 articles a month before they will be asked to ante up for the privilege. They are offering staged price points depending on what level of access you want. The minimum charge is $15 per month or $180 per year. If you already have a subscription to the Times, there will be no additional cost. This strikes me as quite a gamble. With so many sources of web-based information, the Times must believe that what they have to offer is worth a price for admission. I'm an NYT junkie, but I don't think I'm going to pony up $180 a year to continue accessing its content. Here's a link explaining the changes: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/18/business/media/18times.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1300397968-ryB/uUsmF+vP3W8saJ+mrg Edited March 17, 2011 by Dave James Quote
Spontooneous Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Oh boy. The newspaper industry is saved. Quote
GA Russell Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 It would make more sense to me if you gave them your credit card and agreed to pay a penny per article. I don't recall reading anything in a NYT web article that wasn't freely available elsewhere. Quote
BeBop Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 Presumably, there will also be a crackdown on the theft of their content, as other media outlets have done/considered/tried. Quote
Head Man Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Presumably, there will also be a crackdown on the theft of their content, as other media outlets have done/considered/tried. Good luck with that! Quote
Dan Gould Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Since I won't pay the Times a dime, does anyone have recommendations for a paper with decent coverage of international/national news and arts reporting/reviews that is decent and not behind a pay wall? Preferences among the Globe, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post and LA Times? Those are the main ones I am considering. I guess I could make the Globe my go-to URL for all news since I already go there for Red Sox news. I am also curious about ways to defeat their "20 articles a month" system. Re-setting my router each time I reach the maximum? I remember getting advice to do that with Rapidshare but it didn't make any difference, so I am not sure if there will be a fix or not. Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Presumably, there will also be a crackdown on the theft of their content, as other media outlets have done/considered/tried. It's going to be like when the music industry went after Napster. Almost hard to police. Quote
BeBop Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Presumably, there will also be a crackdown on the theft of their content, as other media outlets have done/considered/tried. It's going to be like when the music industry went after Napster. Almost hard to police. I'm on the side of the content providers. I subscribe to 70 magazines, pay for and read them all. I hope your Napster comparison is prescient: where's Napster today? Quote
JETman Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Presumably, there will also be a crackdown on the theft of their content, as other media outlets have done/considered/tried. It's going to be like when the music industry went after Napster. Almost hard to police. I'm on the side of the content providers. I subscribe to 70 magazines, pay for and read them all. I hope your Napster comparison is prescient: where's Napster today? Do YOU pay for them, or does your boss? Quote
BeBop Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Presumably, there will also be a crackdown on the theft of their content, as other media outlets have done/considered/tried. It's going to be like when the music industry went after Napster. Almost hard to police. I'm on the side of the content providers. I subscribe to 70 magazines, pay for and read them all. I hope your Napster comparison is prescient: where's Napster today? Do YOU pay for them, or does your boss? I do. Quote
JETman Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 Presumably, there will also be a crackdown on the theft of their content, as other media outlets have done/considered/tried. It's going to be like when the music industry went after Napster. Almost hard to police. I'm on the side of the content providers. I subscribe to 70 magazines, pay for and read them all. I hope your Napster comparison is prescient: where's Napster today? Do YOU pay for them, or does your boss? I do. Bravo. Finally someone w/o a hypocritical bone in his body! Quote
Shawn Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 where's Napster today? It was replaced with 5 million blogs and bit torrent sites. Taking it away was an even dumber move than letting it continue to operate...when the public gets the taste of something they will find other avenues to acquire the same content. Quote
Tom in RI Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I used to subscribe to both the local paper of record, the Providence Journal, and the Boston Globe. Based on both needing more money (child education is going to kill me)and a noticeable decline in the quality of both papers, I have stopped subscribing to both. I read the NYT online pretty much every day. I could quibble about the specific setup but I do see it as a necessity that a healthy press be supported. The role of newspapers historically has been part of the system in our country that, at least a little bit, helps keep government and industry in line. I think it is a sad thing that neither of my children has the slightest urge to read, much less pay for, a newspaper. I wouldn't be quite so inclined to pay for the NYT if I hadn't seen the shocking, to me, decline in the Boston Globe. I can't speak to other papers around the country but I know the entire industry is one of the few that seems to be in as bad or worse shape than the music industry. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 where's Napster today? It was replaced with 5 million blogs and bit torrent sites. Taking it away was an even dumber move than letting it continue to operate...when the public gets the taste of something they will find other avenues to acquire the same content. It was too late then. The end results are killing me. Quote
BruceH Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 7 or 8 dollars a month seems more like it. Maybe even 5. But 15 just doesn't seem like it's gonna fly. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 19, 2011 Report Posted March 19, 2011 7 or 8 dollars a month seems more like it. Maybe even 5. But 15 just doesn't seem like it's gonna fly. I wouldn't be surprised to see if they drop it to $10 at some point. Quote
Dan Gould Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Apparently the fre lunch will continue at least through the end of the year, at least for me. I imagine a lot of NY Times readers got an offer from Lincoln for a free subscription to the Times for the rest of the year. What I am wondering: 1. How much of a discounted rate is Lincoln getting for these 'complimentary' subscriptions, and how many offers did they send out? Because the retail value for unlimited web access for the rest of the year is $135. 2. Is TARP money being used for this campaign? I might have to rethink my acceptance of the offer. Seems like the Times is hesitant to erect much of a pay wall if they allow this sort of thing. Probably afraid of too big a drop in unique visitors and number of page views, so they want to ease the transition. Quote
Unk Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Apparently the fre lunch will continue at least through the end of the year, at least for me. I imagine a lot of NY Times readers got an offer from Lincoln for a free subscription to the Times for the rest of the year. What I am wondering: 1. How much of a discounted rate is Lincoln getting for these 'complimentary' subscriptions, and how many offers did they send out? Because the retail value for unlimited web access for the rest of the year is $135. 2. Is TARP money being used for this campaign? I might have to rethink my acceptance of the offer. Seems like the Times is hesitant to erect much of a pay wall if they allow this sort of thing. Probably afraid of too big a drop in unique visitors and number of page views, so they want to ease the transition. I'm sorry, Lincoln who? Quote
Dan Gould Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Apparently the fre lunch will continue at least through the end of the year, at least for me. I imagine a lot of NY Times readers got an offer from Lincoln for a free subscription to the Times for the rest of the year. What I am wondering: 1. How much of a discounted rate is Lincoln getting for these 'complimentary' subscriptions, and how many offers did they send out? Because the retail value for unlimited web access for the rest of the year is $135. 2. Is TARP money being used for this campaign? I might have to rethink my acceptance of the offer. Seems like the Times is hesitant to erect much of a pay wall if they allow this sort of thing. Probably afraid of too big a drop in unique visitors and number of page views, so they want to ease the transition. I'm sorry, Lincoln who? The car company. I thought the reference to TARP made that clear. Quote
Unk Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Sorry, my blind spot. I'd thought Ford (parent to Lincoln) didn't get a government bailout, a la GM and Chrysler. ...which isn't to say they didn't didn't get any US Government monies. Quote
Dan Gould Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 Silly me, I couldn't distinguish between Government Motors Cadillac and Lincoln. Now I am proud to accept their largess and continue to read the Times. Quote
Unk Posted March 23, 2011 Report Posted March 23, 2011 And I'm headed toward my local Lincoln dealer to pick up one of them new MKXV whatevers. Who needs a rebate, when you get nince months of the NY Times? Quote
alankin Posted March 29, 2011 Report Posted March 29, 2011 (edited) They're offering the first four weeks for a total of $0.99 as a promo. http://www.nytimes.com/subscriptions/Multiproduct/lp5558.html Edited March 29, 2011 by alankin Quote
GA Russell Posted March 29, 2011 Report Posted March 29, 2011 The NY Times has had a paywall in Canada for a couple of weeks. I have read that you can beat it by either disconnecting (if that's the word) your Java, or by clicking on the Page Source in your browser's View dropdown. The first day the Times put up the paywall in Canada, a guy figured out how to beat it during his lunch hour! Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 29, 2011 Report Posted March 29, 2011 I read somewhere that you can beat the NY Times print-edition "paywall" too... ..by quickly grabbing a copy at most newsstands, and then (without paying for it), running briskly around the corner and down the block with it. Quote
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