GA Russell Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Thanks Larry! That was some song he chose to play for network television! Quote
JSngry Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Insanity? Of course! But who was that drummer? He sounded like he had a clue. Quote
Bill Nelson Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Butter's agent at that time must've been Danny Rose. Danny also handled a Puerto Rican ventriloquist act. (see: 'Broadway Danny Rose', NYC theatrical manager) Quote
BFrank Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Those 3 guys got to split $500 - some nice change in those days, I'm sure. Quote
BERIGAN Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 Interesting! Since I don't know him, I was sure it was number 2. That guy knew everything tossed at him. Quote
JSngry Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 what would really have been insane if this would have been on the Gary Moore-hosted syndicated version of the late 60s/early 70s, especially when the set looked like a really purple acid trip. Quote
JSngry Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2p-K3B-B60 Quote
Hot Ptah Posted July 10, 2011 Report Posted July 10, 2011 This type of Paul Butterfield appearance would never happen today, or for many years going back--a credible musician in a non-pop form would never be the subject of a popular network TV show, nor would "squares" from a previous generation give such a musician respect. Quote
Jazzmoose Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 Interesting! Since I don't know him, I was sure it was number 2. That guy knew everything tossed at him. I wasn't going to admit it, but yeah, I thought number two was obviously the real deal... Quote
JSngry Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 I'm a tad surprised that Tom Poston got punked, but not at all that Peggy Cass and Orson Bean read the signals, even although it was a subject about which they had no real knowledge. Them two had street smarts, eachi n their won way, and To Tell The truth was really all about street smarts, about not getting conned by every sad sack, pretty face, or slick suit with a story to tell.I knew a guy who went three moths without missing. When he finally did, he was pissed off. Felt like he had been punked, and was ready to thrown down against the liar who suckered him. I mean, this cat was MAD, Quote
BFrank Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 Really? You guys don't know Paul Butterfield? I guess I'm just old ... Quote
Jazzmoose Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 I remember the name and the band; my older cousin (by five years) had his stuff, but by the time I was buying LPs, that was old stuff... Quote
Hot Ptah Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) Really? You guys don't know Paul Butterfield? I guess I'm just old ... That was my reaction. By the time I was buying albums, the Butterfield Blues Band was history, but he was a prominent enough figure throughout the 1970s and early 1980s that I think most poeple into music knew about him. For example, he was in The Band's "The Last Waltz" film as a featured performer, in 1978, and I remember that he was quite well received in the theaters in which I saw the film. He had the Better Days band in the mid-1970s which got written up favorably and often in Rolling Stone magazine. Based on the Rolling Stone reviews I went out and got the two Better Days albums as soon as they came out. There was the "Golden Butter" two record set on Elecktra, the best of the Butterfield Blues Band, which I saw in many college dorm rooms in the mid to late 1970s. And the Butterfield Blues Band had a long song on the Woodstock album (composed by drummer Phillip Wilson, as I recall). I can see that if you got into music in the 1980s as your entry point, that he may have been more of a historic figure by then. I'm a tad surprised that Tom Poston got punked, but not at all that Peggy Cass and Orson Bean read the signals, even although it was a subject about which they had no real knowledge. Them two had street smarts, eachi n their won way, and To Tell The truth was really all about street smarts, about not getting conned by every sad sack, pretty face, or slick suit with a story to tell. I knew a guy who went three moths without missing. When he finally did, he was pissed off. Felt like he had been punked, and was ready to thrown down against the liar who suckered him. I mean, this cat was MAD, I am surprised that Orson Bean did not recognize Buttefield on sight. Orson Bean was hip. He knew jazz, and was a friend to jazz musicians. I wonder about the date when the show was aired. If it was aired before the first Butterfield Blues Band album was released, then even the musically aware probably would not have recognized him. Edited July 11, 2011 by Hot Ptah Quote
papsrus Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 I pegged him right away. I probably knew what he looked like from the Woodstock film or something. I remember the show 'To Tell the Truth,' probably from a few years later than that episode. They sure don't give the panel much time for questions. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 Chuck Nessa, If you are reading this thread, would you care to comment on something I have wondered about? Did Phillip Wilson see his time with the Butterfield Blues Band as strictly a money arrangement, or did he find anything musically satisfying about it? Quote
JSngry Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 That clip really felt like 1965 to me, maybe early 1966. Quote
Neal Pomea Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 Orson Bean mentioned Dylan and folk rock, so I doubt this clip could have been before 65. In 64 Dylan wasn't electrified yet, I thought. At least not at Newport. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) According to the online site OVGuide, this show aired March 28, 1966, in season 9 of To Tell the Truth. Other musician contestants that year included Buffy St. Marie and Willie Ruff. Edited July 11, 2011 by Hot Ptah Quote
JSngry Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) And there's no mention of an album currently for sale, which there almost certainly would have been on an appearance like this. The first album came out in 1965, so I really think that that's where we are here, somewhere in 1965, just before the first album had been released. An marvelously..."fluid" time in pop music, that was. Edit to add "OOOPS!!!" Edited July 11, 2011 by JSngry Quote
Hot Ptah Posted July 11, 2011 Report Posted July 11, 2011 And there's no mention of an album currently for sale, which there almost certainly would have been on an appearance like this. The first album came out in 1965, so I really think that that's where we are here, somewhere in 1965, just before the first album had been released. An marvelously..."fluid" time in pop music, that was. Edit to add "OOOPS!!!" The lack of mention of the Butterfield Blues Band's album on this To Tell the Truth show reminds me of something I read online about Michael Bloomfield. It was in one of the major music online forums, perhaps Blindman's Blues Forum. A member posted that he had worked at a factory owned by Michael Bloomfield's father during the 1960s. This was after Bloomfield had been in the Butterfield Blues Band, had played on Dylan's "Highway 61 Revisited" and was otherwise a rock legend. The member said that at the factory, the workers referred to Michael Bloomfield as "the kid with a combo". What we now see as so legendary was not always viewed as such, when it was happening. Quote
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