brownie Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) There are very, very few people I admire in politics. Havel was one of them! From BBC News Havel dies at 75 Edited December 18, 2011 by brownie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 Indeed, worthy of admiration. I wonder if his literary background actually made him more fit for leadership than someone whose political resume was more typical (law, business, politics, etc). It is that humanist quality that seems to me to be so lacking today; indeed, held in contempt or derision by too many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted December 18, 2011 Report Share Posted December 18, 2011 RIP. A giant of post-WW2 European history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 According to Wikipedia "Havel was also a great supporter and fan of jazz and frequented such Prague clubs as Radost FX and the Reduta Jazz Club" . IIRC one of the important Czech dissident writings was titled "The Jazz Manifesto". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinuta Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 As you've all said, an important historical figure and a sad loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 A rare case of an ordinary, rational non-megolamaniac guy actually getting to be in power. Very sad to hear of his passing and no suprise that he seems to have liked jazz. RIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Goren. Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 Indeed, worthy of admiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 According to Wikipedia "Havel was also a great supporter and fan of jazz and frequented such Prague clubs as Radost FX and the Reduta Jazz Club" . IIRC one of the important Czech dissident writings was titled "The Jazz Manifesto". I've been reading some of the writings of Josef Skvorecky, who frequently writes on jazz and Eastern European politics. I believe he was an admirer of Havel, though they probably had some differences. I'm going to see if I can track down this short piece by Skvorecky: - "I Saw Václav Havel for the Last Time", in Jan Vladislav (ed.) Václav Havel or Living in Truth, Fa ber and Faber, London, pp.274-277. BTW, has anyone actually seen any of the early plays by Havel? I've seen one in translation (The Memorandum), and while I'm sure it did lose a lot in translation, the satire was still quite biting. Slightly more absurdist than Bulgakov, but they (to me) seemed like fellow spirits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 According to Wikipedia "Havel was also a great supporter and fan of jazz and frequented such Prague clubs as Radost FX and the Reduta Jazz Club" . IIRC one of the important Czech dissident writings was titled "The Jazz Manifesto". I've been reading some of the writings of Josef Skvorecky, who frequently writes on jazz and Eastern European politics. I believe he was an admirer of Havel, though they probably had some differences. I'm going to see if I can track down this short piece by Skvorecky: - "I Saw Václav Havel for the Last Time", in Jan Vladislav (ed.) Václav Havel or Living in Truth, Fa ber and Faber, London, pp.274-277. BTW, has anyone actually seen any of the early plays by Havel? I've seen one in translation (The Memorandum), and while I'm sure it did lose a lot in translation, the satire was still quite biting. Slightly more absurdist than Bulgakov, but they (to me) seemed like fellow spirits. If you find it please let me know. I have most of Josef's writings that have been published in English but not that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 According to Wikipedia "Havel was also a great supporter and fan of jazz and frequented such Prague clubs as Radost FX and the Reduta Jazz Club" . IIRC one of the important Czech dissident writings was titled "The Jazz Manifesto". I've been reading some of the writings of Josef Skvorecky, who frequently writes on jazz and Eastern European politics. I believe he was an admirer of Havel, though they probably had some differences. I'm going to see if I can track down this short piece by Skvorecky: - "I Saw Václav Havel for the Last Time", in Jan Vladislav (ed.) Václav Havel or Living in Truth, Fa ber and Faber, London, pp.274-277. BTW, has anyone actually seen any of the early plays by Havel? I've seen one in translation (The Memorandum), and while I'm sure it did lose a lot in translation, the satire was still quite biting. Slightly more absurdist than Bulgakov, but they (to me) seemed like fellow spirits. If you find it please let me know. I have most of Josef's writings that have been published in English but not that one. Actually, this volume is being remaindered and there are plenty of copies: Remaindered Truth I decided I would just try ILL, but I came close to buying it (probably only holding off because I went and bought the collected plays of Havel in 3 volumes -- and that will be of more long term interest than this particular collection). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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