Tim McG Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 But the 5th Dimension was NOT crappy! That was one helluva good song and a GREAT Pop record! Jimmy Webb during that time? Freakin' In The Zone. But that's not why it won, trust me. Here - see for yourself, Record Of The Year, year by year, winners and nominees: http://en.wikipedia....ord_of_the_Year You got your music, then you got your music business (getting the music made) then you got your Music Industry (selling the music that gets made), and then you got your Grammys (celebrating the selling of some of the music that gets made). Don't get me wrong, I still have an abiding love of Pop Music (it seldom loves me back these days, but it's entitled, as am I), but the last time - literally - that I watched or "cared" about the grammys was 1969. I kid you not. Point well taken, Jim. I totally get that the Grammys are a popularity contest. But there again, my concern goes to the marketing and packaging process which bodes well for the sales but not for the quality of music. I would love to see if there is a single other person on here who thinks Lady GaGa is "a marvelous keyboardist and vocalist". I don't know if I'd call GaGa "a marvelous keyboardist and vocalist", but I do like some of what I've seen and heard thus far. Rather than merely "ripping off" Madonna's music, I think she's a talented artist who's picked up the torch and carried it further in terms of celebrating diversity. More power to her! Oh, and one more thing. Given your checkered history on this board, I find it ironic that you should be calling someone else a troll. I say this based upon the streaming video for Clinton's birthday bash last year. She did a couple keyboard solos that were, IMHO, superb. She has the talent but prefers the glitz and glitter over substance. That I find to be sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christiern Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 One very important factor is the label. A major label competing against an upstart is far more likely to win, regardless of artistic merit. Same goes for all categories—I know that one of my Grammys should be collecting dust in someone else's dark corner or closet—It came to me because that label read "Columbia." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Bottom line: the Black Keys are a lame nerdy act for white college boys with pimples who think they're cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Bottom line: the Black Keys are a lame nerdy act for white college boys with pimples who think they're cool Looks like The Bieb is not a fan either! Justin Bieber says Black Keys drummer needs 'slapping around' Read more at http://www.nme.com/n...ZQCRC4Hom4tF.99 Edited February 12, 2013 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I like Katy Perry's dress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnymax Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I like Katy Perry's dress It would appear that you're not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Katy deserves a Grammy for most spectacular cleavage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I like Katy Perry's dress I have no problems with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnymax Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Katy deserves a Grammy for most spectacular cleavage. And for nothing else, imo. Her hit records contain some of the most inane lyrics I've heard recently, a view shared by quite a few of my adolescent clients. If there's any truth in advertising left, her inevitable compliation will be entitled, "Katy's Greatest Tits". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I never listen to modern pop music so I have no idea of how good/bad she is and don't really care. Her videos are fun to watch silently while listening to better music though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 One very important factor is the label. A major label competing against an upstart is far more likely to win, regardless of artistic merit. Same goes for all categories—I know that one of my Grammys should be collecting dust in someone else's dark corner or closet—It came to me because that label read "Columbia." Good point. Labels bring with them a fair amount of clout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Didn't Merge Records win best album two years ago, and Jagjaguar last year? Two very small labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted February 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Dunno. I haven't watched the Grammys for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Well thanks for answering then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I always thought the Grammys were a complete joke. Then a couple years ago Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" won Album of the Year. Did Hell freeze over? Perhaps it's just a stopped clock being right twice a day. (Or in their case, twice a century.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Dunno. I haven't watched the Grammys for years. You can't make this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Apparently, someone here isn't aware of this thing called the Internet...or newspapers. I always thought the Grammys were a complete joke. Then a couple years ago Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" won Album of the Year. Did Hell freeze over? Perhaps it's just a stopped clock being right twice a day. (Or in their case, twice a century.) The Oscars are a close second, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Apparently, someone here isn't aware of this thing called the Internet...or newspapers. I always thought the Grammys were a complete joke. Then a couple years ago Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" won Album of the Year. Did Hell freeze over? Perhaps it's just a stopped clock being right twice a day. (Or in their case, twice a century.) The Oscars are a close second, IMHO. 1. You started an entire thread about something that went from it made it seem like you actually watched it. Then, it was you didn't even watch it. Your 'Spies" told you about. It's now been downgraded to you not only haven't seen it in years....you're basing it all on the Internet and Newspapers. Just how different is that from what Tea Baggers, Republicans, Religious nut-jobs, or what trolls do? 2. Then, it was @ some point only in your mind the Grammys were actually once about quality. 3. Then, you got JSngry to fall into one of your holes as he pointed out the absurdity of your posts. 4. Now, you're literally agreeing with what JSngry &/and or I were saying about the Grammys and Oscars being a joke when it comes to quality. Edited February 13, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) To be fair, though, Pop Culture is only as entertaining as it is because of the built-in absurdity that renders "traditional quality" a (sometimes) welcome but ultimately parallel-at-best consideration. Edited February 13, 2013 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 To be fair, though, Pop Culture is only as entertaining as it is because of the built-in absurdity that renders "traditional quality" a (sometimes) welcome but ultimately parallel-at-best consideration. Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) To be fair, though, Pop Culture is only as entertaining as it is because of the built-in absurdity that renders "traditional quality" a (sometimes) welcome but ultimately parallel-at-best consideration. I dunno. Some very nice tunes have come out of Pop music over the years. Your picture, however, lends itself to Pop Culture...not quite the same thing. The absurdity in Pop Music comes from of the suits' desire to prepackage everything into some nice neat little promotional gimmick to make money off of the clueless minions of the musically illiterate. Trash sells if they put enough make-up on it...and they know it. Sad. Edited February 13, 2013 by GoodSpeak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValerieB Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Apparently, someone here isn't aware of this thing called the Internet...or newspapers. I always thought the Grammys were a complete joke. Then a couple years ago Arcade Fire's "The Suburbs" won Album of the Year. Did Hell freeze over? Perhaps it's just a stopped clock being right twice a day. (Or in their case, twice a century.) The Oscars are a close second, IMHO. 1. You started an entire thread about something that went from it made it seem like you actually watched it. Then, it was you didn't even watch it. Your 'Spies" told you about. It's now been downgraded to you not only haven't seen it in years....you're basing it all on the Internet and Newspapers. Just how different is that from what Tea Baggers, Republicans, Religious nut-jobs, or what trolls do? 2. Then, it was @ some point only in your mind the Grammys were actually once about quality. 3. Then, you got JSngry to fall into one of your holes as he pointed out the absurdity of your posts. 4. Now, you're literally agreeing with what JSngry &/and or I were saying about the Grammys and Oscars being a joke when it comes to quality. uh, Louis, it doesn't look like JSngry is the only one to fall into one of those holes again!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Damn those holes; they're everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shawn Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 (edited) Dunno. I haven't watched the Grammys for years. Then why start a thread bitching about something you don't watch? Edited February 13, 2013 by Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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