l p Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 from dolphy-l list Out to lunch japanese re-issue 01. Hat and Beard 02. Something Sweet Something Tender 03. Gazeroni 04. Out-to-lunch 05. Straight Up And Down 06. Hat and Beard (Alternate Take) (bonus track) 07. Something Sweet Something Tender (Alternate Take) (bonus track) Details with Google translation athttp://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=3Den&sl=3Dja&u=3Dhttp://www.hmv.c=o.jp/artist_Eric-Dolphy_000000000002082/item_Out-To-Lunch-24bit-Rmt_5508895&= prev=3D/search%3Fq%3DTYCJ-81013%26sa%3DX%26tbas%3D0%26biw%3D1112%26bih%3D559 It's now listed on amazon.co.uk, but without track details, for =A320.00 and Eric Dolphy MUSES/ MMEX-159-CD-LP ERIC DOLPHY MUSES the Unreleased Douglas recordings NYC (Music Makers, Inc.), 1 July, 1963 Eric Dolphy (bcl); Richard Davis (bass). . 1. Muses, (bcl) (08:28) Never before released 2. Alone Together (bcl) (alt.take) (12:05) 3 July, 1963 Woody Shaw (tpt); Eric Dolphy (as); Bobby Hutcherson (vib); Eddie Khan, Richard Davis (bass); J.C. Moses (dr). 3.Mandrake (as) (alt.take) (04:21) 4.Iron Man (as), (alt.take) (08:24) Eric Dolphy (as). 5.Love Me (as) (alt.take) (03:59) This recording will be released 25th November 2013. The recording is in a limited edition in 999 copies See http://www.marshmallow-records.com/ orhttp://www.catfish-records.jp/product/16661 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Discussion in this thread including some reports of hearing the disc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Lon, just making sure you didn't overlook the second release he has listed here called "Muses." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Ah, did miss that one. 999 copies. . . may just sell all of those! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 The Marshmallow is tempting but quite brief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Don't need them. Either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Are those Iron Man session alternates known in the trading community, or are they completely new? Edit: ¥2,600 is (too) expensive for the Muses CD. New, at least to me ... guess I'd have heard (of) them if they were wide-spread. But the price tag is hefty. Would still love to hear this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Are those Iron Man session alternates known in the trading community, or are they completely new? Edit: ¥2,600 is (too) expensive for the Muses CD. New, at least to me ... guess I'd have heard (of) them if they were wide-spread. But the price tag is hefty. Would still love to hear this! I'll probably get this regardless. Sigh. I love the Iron Man album. If it's not official it should really get uploaded to that place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I can see in the near future the Andorrans releasing a double Dolphy CD (stealing/adding this release of alternates to the 2004 Lonehill Jazz CD "Complete Memorial Album Sessions") & calling it what? "The Absolute Complete……. Sessions" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 MP3 samples for the first three tracks can be found here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I can see in the near future the Andorrans releasing a double Dolphy CD (stealing/adding this release of alternates to the 2004 Lonehill Jazz CD "Complete Memorial Album Sessions") & calling it what? "The Absolute Complete……. Sessions" they'd be stealing from various generations of thieves, as is my understanding ... it's really a disgrace that there's no proper reissue of this material around at atll ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) The two Fresh Sound releases, Iron Man (FSR1628) and Conversations (FSRCD1627), claim to have been remastered from the original tapes. What's the story on that? Edited January 7, 2014 by erwbol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Don't they routinely put up such claims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Don't they routinely put up such claims?Not as far as I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I can see in the near future the Andorrans releasing a double Dolphy CD (stealing/adding this release of alternates to the 2004 Lonehill Jazz CD "Complete Memorial Album Sessions") & calling it what? "The Absolute Complete……. Sessions" So, people here have stolen this. The 'Andorrans' haven't. And the topic becomes how 'they' are thieves. Talk about projection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Wasn't Alan Douglas always kind of a shady character himself? Don't they routinely put up such claims? Not as far as I know. Okay, good to know. I've not bought many Fresh Sound releases in the past four or five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) The Fresh Sound releases do sound better than any other (Conversations a bit better than Iron Man). They reproduce the original artwork, label logos & liner notes. They are enjoyable sonically imo (and in stereo). Certainly better than the MP3 sample of the Iron Man alternate take from this new Muses release which according to eastwindimport.com is in mono. Edited January 7, 2014 by erwbol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 The Fresh Sound releases do sound better than any other (Conversations a bit better than Iron Man). They reproduce the original artwork, label logos & liner notes. Better than the Universal/Fuel 2000 releases from 2001 (Conversations) and 2002 (Iron Man)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 I bought the Fresh Sound discs on release. There was a review in Jazzwise magazine (in 2003 ?) that stated this was the best these albums ever sounded (in digital at least, though they probably never sounded marvellous on vinyl as well). I later downloaded some other releases and compared. I can't remember which ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Fuel 2000 was a Universal outfit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Fuel 2000 was a Universal outfit? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Really now? I always thought it was one of those shady Charly-associated ones - it came and went that fast at least ... all I have is "Student Studies" by Cecil Taylor - fabulous music in less so sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Really now? I always thought it was one of those shady Charly-associated onesWasn't Alan Douglas always kind of a shady character himself?So - a timely response to my request for no more conspiracy theories..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Sorry, didn't see that request ... but the thing about Fuel 2000 being an official label is really news to me! Their website looks like a wreck though, blank links everywhere. But really, are we talking about the same thing? http://www.discogs.com/label/10743-Fuel-2000 says there: "A division of Varèse Sarabande" (*deleted the additional line forging conspiracies here*) And you don't really want me to believe those BYG reissues of records by Shepp or the Art Ensemble were overseen by Universal or officially licensed? my CD of "Reese and the Smooth Ones" certainly doesn't say nothing that would make me believe such a thing - rather it confirms the Varèse Sarabande affiliation ... so they're from Universal City which is home of the Universal Studios ... they're also being distributed by Universal, but what does that really mean? I don't think it means those BYG records belong to Universal? Edited January 7, 2014 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 (edited) Varèse Sarabande is distributed by Universal, and so is Fuel 2000 - the latter is not part of Universal, contrary to what I said earlier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Var%C3%A8se_Sarabande On my Fuel 2000 CDs it says: Fuel 2000 Records released in cooperation with Varèse Sarabande and UMVD. [...] Distributed by Universal Music and Video Distribution (UMVD). Edited January 7, 2014 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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