fasstrack Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Does anyone know about a small group date Pres made in the period of '37-'41 with a trumpet player? It may've been Buck Clayton. I asked Phil Schaap about it, but he insisted there was no such date. But I heard it on the radio (WKCR), I didn't dream it---and it was fantastic playing by Pres. Just didn't catch the name of the recording. Any ideas? I'd be much-obliged as this is must-have music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Was there an organ on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 1 minute ago, JSngry said: Was there an organ on it? No, and I wish I could remember more. Not giving folks much to go on. The facks, ma'am, as I recall: small group, front line Pres and trumpet (possibly Buck). A DJ on WKCR named Sid Gribetz played it. That's all I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 if live, then it may be one of these Between February 27 and March 17, 1941 (February 15, 1941?) Lester Young & his Band Manhattan Center, New York City Shad Collins t; Lester Young ts; John Collins g; Nick Fenton b; Doc West d Tickle Toe Taxi War Dance December 2, 1941 Lester & Lee Young’s Band Club Capri, Hollywood Paul Campbel t; Lester Young & Bumps Myers ts; Jimmy Rowles p; Red Callender b; Lee Young d Untitled Original / Blues (Theme) 1 jun 1942 Los Angeles, Billy Berg's Trouville Club Lester and Lee Young Band, Trumpet - Red 'Mack' Morris 4-6 tunes, 2 are with holiday. if studio, then schaap's probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) 12 minutes ago, l p said: if studio, then schaap's probably right. I do think it was a studio date. I was half asleep when he played it, but I'm sure the scant outline I gave is correct. Doubt that that helps, though. Let's expand the search to include any pre-army Lester, same criteria. Edited November 9, 2015 by fasstrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 Probably the Kansas City Six on Commodore. Buck Clayton on trumpet. Prez plays tenor and clarinet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 1 minute ago, jazztrain said: Probably the Kansas City Six on Commodore. Buck Clayton on trumpet. Prez plays tenor and clarinet. It was all tenor. Sorry, but thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 http://www.welwyn11.freeserve.co.uk/LY_smallgps.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 2 minutes ago, l p said: http://www.welwyn11.freeserve.co.uk/LY_smallgps.htm Thanks for putting this on this and the other thread. Maybe none of these are 'my' date, but they're all worth having---big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted November 9, 2015 Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 In addition to the dates listed here, there are two takes of I Found a New Baby from June 1, 1937 with Buck Clayton on trumpet. Teddy Wilson is on piano, Buster Bailey on clarinet, Freddie Green-g, Walter Page-b, Jo Jones-d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Are these possibly the tunes from Lester's first recordings session, which I think was technically under the leadership of trumpeter Carl Smith? The year, I believe was, 1936. If so, it is certainly essential Pres and essential jazz. Edited November 10, 2015 by Milestones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 13 hours ago, Milestones said: Are these possibly the tunes from Lester's first recordings session, which I think was technically under the leadership of trumpeter Carl Smith? The year, I believe was, 1936. If so, it is certainly essential Pres and essential jazz. Dunno, but thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 Between February 27 and March 17, 1941 (February 15, 1941?) Lester Young & his Band Manhattan Center, New York City Shad Collins t; Lester Young ts; John Collins g; Nick Fenton b; Doc West d 2. Tickle Toe (Young) 5:25 3. Taxi War Dance (Basie-Young) 5:19 That's one amazing session ... sorta pre-cool (Pres was the true king of cool anyways) what without piano and all that ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 12 minutes ago, king ubu said: Shad Collins t; Lester Young ts; John Collins g; Nick Fenton b; Doc West d That's one amazing session ... sorta pre-cool (Pres was the true king of cool anyways) what without piano and all that ... John Collins was one of the greatest and most under-appreciated guitarists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 maybe it's this http://picosong.com/6MYn/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quasimado Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 That is just beautiful Lester! And he sings! JazzArcheology. Com. has personnel and details: LEE AND LESTER YOUNG'S BAND “A Little Bit South Of North Carolina” Prob. Hollywood, Feb ~July 1942 (Acetate probably made by a fan in a club, probably Club Capri). "Red" Mack Morris (tp, vo), Bumps Myers, Lester Young (ts, vo), Jimmy Rowles (p), Louis Gonzales (g), Red Callender (b), Lee Young (dm, vo). That Lester sang has been confirmed by Lee Young. lp, thanks for posting that! Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 i posted this tune not only because some may not have heard it, but because discographies list it as a club in los angeles, and the backing band as also singing the harmony vocals. the harmony vocals sound too perfect for this to be a nightclub performance. i think it may be a studio recording? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 btw, sorry l p for repeating what you'd already posted, hadn't noticed ... that was, to me, the first session that came to mind, but I guess it's not the one fasstrack is looking for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Why not send Sid Gribetz and email? He should have his play list. You may get lucky if you know the date and time. WKCR lists the plays lists. https://www.cc-seas.columbia.edu/wkcr/playlist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted November 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 12 hours ago, Hardbopjazz said: Why not send Sid Gribetz and email? He should have his play list. You may get lucky if you know the date and time. WKCR lists the plays lists. https://www.cc-seas.columbia.edu/wkcr/playlist Maybe I just will. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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