Chuck Nessa Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, JSngry said: These are absolutely essential, imo. You know George Avakian was married to Maro's sister Anahid, a violinist? Quote
JSngry Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 I did. What I haven't been able to find is a lot of information about Jeanne Kirstein (past the liner notes) and/or whatever happened to her. Quote
Larry Kart Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Chuck Nessa said: You know George Avakian was married to Maro's sister Anahid, a violinist? About ten years ago I was at an Arbors recording session at Nola Studios on which my friend Randy Sandke was playing. Afterwards we all retired to Birdland to listen to some music and schmooze. I was seated next to Avakian, whom I'd never met before. Making small talk, I told him how much I had enjoyed the old (mid-1950s) Columbia LP on which his wife had played several AlanHovhaness pieces (my introduction to Hovhaness, these were coupled with Stefan Wolpe's "Ten Songs from the Hebrew"). Avakian was pleased to hear this and seemingly surprised that anyone remembered or had even heard the album. I still have it. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 51 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: About ten years ago I was at an Arbors recording session at Nola Studios on which my friend Randy Sandke was playing. Afterwards we all retired to Birdland to listen to some music and schmooze. I was seated next to Avakian, whom I'd never met before. Making small talk, I told him how much I had enjoyed the old (mid-1950s) Columbia LP on which his wife had played several AlanHovhaness pieces (my introduction to Hovhaness, these were coupled with Stefan Wolpe's "Ten Songs from the Hebrew"). Avakian was pleased to hear this and seemingly surprised that anyone remembered or had even heard the album. I still have it. I have a Dial lp (dial 6) containing 4 Hovhaness compositions. Lousadzak-concerto for piano and orchestra w/Maro Ajemian, conducted by the composer Tzikerk for flute (Phillip Kaplan), Violin (Anahid Ajemian), tympani (Saul Goodman) and strings conducted by the composer Achtamar for solo piano (Maro Ajemian) Shatakh for piano and violin (the usual suspects) Quote
JSngry Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 Dial Classical Mosaic. They're running out of Woody Herman and will never run out of Louis Armstrong. And John Cage sells (some) records. Quote
T.D. Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Dial Classical Mosaic. They're running out of Woody Herman and will never run out of Louis Armstrong. And John Cage sells (some) records. Not to totally discount the idea, but I don't see a crying need for more Cage releases. There's already a "Complete Cage Edition" in progress on Mode. I thought there was one on Wergo, but can't immediately verify. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, T.D. said: Not to totally discount the idea, but I don't see a crying need for more Cage releases. There's already a "Complete Cage Edition" in progress on Mode. I thought there was one on Wergo, but can't immediately verify. Cage would 0nly be a fraction. Quote
Larry Kart Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Larry Kart said: About ten years ago I was at an Arbors recording session at Nola Studios on which my friend Randy Sandke was playing. Afterwards we all retired to Birdland to listen to some music and schmooze. I was seated next to Avakian, whom I'd never met before. Making small talk, I told him how much I had enjoyed the old (mid-1950s) Columbia LP on which his wife had played several AlanHovhaness pieces (my introduction to Hovhaness, these were coupled with Stefan Wolpe's "Ten Songs from the Hebrew"). Avakian was pleased to hear this and seemingly surprised that anyone remembered or had even heard the album. I still have it. Stefan Wolpe / Alan Hovhaness – Ten Songs From The Hebrew / Upon Enchanted Ground / Suite For Violin, Piano, And Percussion Label: Columbia Masterworks – ML 5179 Series: Modern American Music Series – Format: Vinyl, LP, Mono Country: US Released: 1957 Genre: Classical Style: Modern, Contemporary TracklistHide Credits A –Stefan Wolpe Ten Songs From The Hebrew Alto Vocals – Arline CarmenBass Vocals – Leon LishnerComposed By – Stefan WolpePiano – David Tudor B1 –Alan Hovhaness Upon Enchanted Ground Cello – Claus AdamComposed By – Alan HovhanessConductor – Alan HovhanessFlute – Samuel BaronHarp – Lucile LawrenceTam-tam – Elden Bailey* B2 –Alan Hovhaness Suite For Violin, Piano, And Percussion Composed By – Alan HovhanessPercussion – Elden Bailey*Piano – Maro AjemianViolin – Anahid Ajemian Quote
JSngry Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Larry Kart said: Stefan Wolpe / Alan Hovhaness – Ten Songs From The Hebrew / Upon Enchanted Ground / Suite For Violin, Piano, And Percussion Label: Columbia Masterworks – ML 5179 Series: Modern American Music Series – Format: Vinyl, LP, Mono Country: US Released: 1957 Genre: Classical Style: Modern, Contemporary TracklistHide Credits A –Stefan Wolpe Ten Songs From The Hebrew Alto Vocals – Arline CarmenBass Vocals – Leon LishnerComposed By – Stefan WolpePiano – David Tudor B1 –Alan Hovhaness Upon Enchanted Ground Cello – Claus AdamComposed By – Alan HovhanessConductor – Alan HovhanessFlute – Samuel BaronHarp – Lucile LawrenceTam-tam – Elden Bailey* B2 –Alan Hovhaness Suite For Violin, Piano, And Percussion Composed By – Alan HovhanessPercussion – Elden Bailey*Piano – Maro AjemianViolin – Anahid Ajemian Columbia Modern American Music Series box from Sony. I would be so in on that one. Quote
Larry Kart Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 Anahid is also in the string section on this Flip Phillips album from 1992. Very tasty Dick Hyman arrangements that he and Flip worked out together, not soppy at all. Flip also plays some bass clarinet here; as one might imagine, he has a lovely sound. Quote
T.D. Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, Referentzhunter said: Any recommendations for John Cage's music ? That's a tough one. Most "accessible" recommendations would be the S & I for PP by Ajemian and various "early" percussion works. I think that to get deeply into Cage you have to share his aesthetic philosophy of randomness to some degree. And that's far from a common preference. I had recordings of some "classic" instrumental performances like Grete Sultan's Music of Changes (Wergo) and Irvine Arditti's Freeman Etudes (Newport Classics) but didn't care for them. I can get into Roaratorio if in the right mood. I generally enjoy the late "Number Pieces", but frankly haven't found it necessary to acquire many recordings thereof. Don't know if you'd care for them; maybe you could try some samples/clips. These are some "number piece" recordings I like: The latter is really great (oop but maybe you can buy it direct from Goldstein), and if you don't like the Cage you at least have an excellent Feldman recording. This is an intriguing new number piece recording I intend to buy but haven't yet heard (waiting for USA release): Two^2 is different from most other number pieces (which involve time intervals and stopwatches), and allows more performer discretion re. tempi. Edited January 28, 2020 by T.D. Quote
HutchFan Posted January 27, 2020 Report Posted January 27, 2020 2 hours ago, JSngry said: Dial Classical Mosaic. They're running out of Woody Herman and will never run out of Louis Armstrong. And John Cage sells (some) records. GREAT idea !!! Quote
JSngry Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 48 minutes ago, T.D. said: I think that to get deeply into Cage you have to share his aesthetic philosophy of randomness to some degree. And that's far from a common preference. Exactly. And sometimes I don't mind dealing with it like that. But sometimes I do. As a musical philosopher/conceptualist, I am totally into him. But there's more to music than just philosophy and concept. If all you had to to was think (or not think...)...That's an excellent destination point, but a horrible starting point. imo, of course. Quote
Peter Friedman Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Spohr _ String Quartet No.20, Op.74/1 Arensky - Symphony No.1, Op.4 Quote
Marzz Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) On 1/27/2020 at 11:07 AM, JSngry said: I did. What I haven't been able to find is a lot of information about Jeanne Kirstein (past the liner notes) and/or whatever happened to her. I remember reading somewhere (still trying to find it) that she passed away from cancer c.1979. Her husband was the cellist Jack Kirstein of LaSalle Quartet fame. You've probably found this article from 1974, if not https://www.newspapers.com/image/?clipping_id=11090384&fcfToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJmcmVlLXZpZXctaWQiOjEwNDUwNzc5NiwiaWF0IjoxNTgwMTg4NTMzLCJleHAiOjE1ODAyNzQ5MzN9.K9pcKOxROUNgVZ3sAsc61_jQkP4PRnitsyGuHrdG-aA Speaking of LaSalle, now playing CD4 from this (Berg - Lyric Suite & String Qt, op.3) Edited January 28, 2020 by Marzz Quote
Daniel A Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 14 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Yes, the symphony issued it first - I think it had a blue cover. Our version was less compressed than theirs. We filtered out some low frequencies when the noise appeared. Interesting! Would you care to share how a recording on a Swedish (budget?) label came to be released in the US? Quote
soulpope Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 34 minutes ago, Marzz said: 👍Excellent👍 .... Quote
Peter Friedman Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Piano Sonata No.31, Op.110 and No.32, Op.111 Quote
Referentzhunter Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 16 hours ago, T.D. said: That's a tough one. Most "accessible" recommendations would be the S & I for PP by Ajemian and various "early" percussion works. I think that to get deeply into Cage you have to share his aesthetic philosophy of randomness to some degree. And that's far from a common preference. I had recordings of some "classic" instrumental performances like Grete Sultan's Music of Changes (Wergo) and Irvine Arditti's Freeman Etudes (Newport Classics) but didn't care for them. I can get into Roaratorio if in the right mood. I generally enjoy the late "Number Pieces", but frankly haven't found it necessary to acquire many recordings thereof. Don't know if you'd care for them; maybe you could try some samples/clips. These are some "number piece" recordings I like: The latter is really great (oop but maybe you can buy it direct from Goldstein), and if you don't like the Cage you at least have an excellent Feldman recording. This is an intriguing new number piece recording I intend to buy but haven't yet heard (waiting for USA release): Two^2 is different from most other number pieces (which involve time intervals and stopwatches), and allows more performer discretion re. tempi. i will see how tough he is... i think i understand what you mean by that. Thank you for the other suggestions... maybe i will have a listen in time. Quote
soulpope Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Earlier today .... : Near time re-play .... fantastic .... Quote
Referentzhunter Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) Thiftstore find... Worth having for 1.50 euro i guess. Edited January 28, 2020 by Referentzhunter Quote
soulpope Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: Thiftstore find... Worth having for 1.50 euro i guess. Definitely .... Quote
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