Referentzhunter Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, soulpope said: 👍👍👍!!! I like the Davidsbundlertanze Quote
HutchFan Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Referentzhunter said: 6 hours ago, soulpope said: 👍👍👍!!! I think Arrau's Schumann is SUPERB too. 2 hours ago, Referentzhunter said: Cd 2, Symphony's 1 & 4 What are your impressions of this set (so far)? Quote
Peter Friedman Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 Fleisher - Variations and Fugue on a Theme of Handel Op.24 Oistrakh / Yampolsky - Franck - Violin Sonata Quote
soulpope Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Peter Friedman said: Excellent .... Quote
JSngry Posted May 1, 2019 Report Posted May 1, 2019 Like it after first listen, like it just fine. Attacca Quartet hella band, and Shaw has very clear ideas about what goes where and why not anything else does. Quote
Referentzhunter Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) Cd 3/4, Symphony's 2 & 3 & 5 & 7 & Pelleas Et Melisande Edited May 2, 2019 by Referentzhunter Quote
Referentzhunter Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 20 hours ago, HutchFan said: I think Arrau's Schumann is SUPERB too. What are your impressions of this set (so far)? I can't say at the moment. Need more time. Quote
HutchFan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 This morning, Saint-Saëns' "Organ" Symphony as performed by Münch and the Boston SO: Thrilling. 1 hour ago, Referentzhunter said: I can't say at the moment. Need more time. Understood! Quote
Larry Kart Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Referentzhunter said: Cd 3, Symphony's 2 & 3 Got the whole Barbirolli set and like it a lot, but I wouldn't say it's the last word. Haven't listened to all of Berglund's set with the Helsinki orchestra, but so far it's a contender and as different from Barbirolli as chalk from cheese -- sharper edges, less romantic. Quote
Referentzhunter Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, HutchFan said: This morning, Saint-Saëns' "Organ" Symphony as performed by Münch and the Boston SO: Thrilling. Understood! I am now listening to the fourth cd and i like the set for sure. From what i read i understood there doesn't exist a totally essential complete set as a whole. If you want cream on your listening experience you have to listen to several seperate recordings of his Symphony's. What i like about this set is that it has a feeling of distance about it but at some spots also a feeling of warmth. I expect it to be played like this. Barbirolli has the same Zodiac Sign as Sibelius. So puristic material i would say... Sometimes slowly revealing it's beauty, and often powerfull in the last movement of the symphony. Sibelius himself liked the way Barbirolli conducted his works so that says a lot to. Edited May 2, 2019 by Referentzhunter Quote
HutchFan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 Berlioz: Les Troyens / Sir Colin Davis, Ben Heppner, Michelle DeYoung, London SO & Chorus, et al (LSO Live) Just getting to know this new-to-me set. The only other recording of this opera with which I'm familiar is Davis' earlier recording on Philips. Quote
HutchFan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 45 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: Got the whole Barbirolli set and like it a lot, but I wouldn't say it's the last word. Haven't listened to all of Berglund's set with the Helsinki orchestra, but so far it's a contender and as different from Barbirolli as chalk from cheese -- sharper edges, less romantic. Agree with you 100%, Larry. Barbirolli's Romantic way with Sibelius is just one interpretive approach among many. "Cooler" readings by conductors like Berglund, Osmo Vänskä, and others offer an entirely different point of view. Quote
erwbol Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: Etudes Same here! Listening to the SHM-CD (UCCG-51087) with the 2011 DSD remaster. Quote
Referentzhunter Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 Just now, erwbol said: Same here! Listening to the SHM-CD (UCCG-51087) with the 2011 DSD remaster. ahahah nice Quote
HutchFan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 24 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: What i like about this set is that it has a feeling of distance about it but at some spots also a feeling of warmth. Yes. Well put. It somehow makes the readings seem very personal -- to me at least. There's also something about the music that puts me in the mind of an older person. It's the perspective of someone who has lived a while; it's not a "young person's Sibelius." (Of course, this could also just be me foisting my own meanings on the music!) Quote
Referentzhunter Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Yes. Well put. It somehow makes the readings seem very personal -- to me at least. There's also something about the music that puts me in the mind of an older person. It's the perspective of someone who has lived a while; it's not a "young person's Sibelius." (Of course, this could also just be me foisting my own meanings on the music!) i understand. Sibelius was pretty old when he first wrote his first Symphony. He wrote symphonies from 34-58 years old. Edited May 2, 2019 by Referentzhunter Quote
HutchFan Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Referentzhunter said: i understand. How old was Sibelius when he wrote his symphony's ? Wikepedia will tell Per wikipedia, Sibelius was 33 when he finished his First Symphony and 59 when he finished his Seventh. I'm nowhere near enough of an expert to suggest that Barbirolli's readings are somehow "more truthful" to the scores than others. And, honestly, I don't even really care about that. With him, I just hear an interpretive point of view that pulls me, that's convincing to me as a listener -- from an entirely subjective point of view. Edited May 2, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
Referentzhunter Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Per wikipedia, Sibelius was 33 when he finished his First Symphony and 59 when he finished his Seventh. I'm nowhere near enough of an expert to suggest that Barbirolli's readings are somehow "more truthful" to the score than others. And, honestly, I don't even really care about that. With him, I just hear an interpretive point of view that pulls me, that's convincing to me as a listener -- from an entirely subjective point of view. I am no expert myself. Very few are. Probably people that knew the man himself or studied the man and his scores understand what Sibelius's music is about. Conductors conducting their on work deliver most pure interpretations !!! But loving music in a personal way is also important indeed. You are right. Edited May 2, 2019 by Referentzhunter Quote
Peter Friedman Posted May 2, 2019 Report Posted May 2, 2019 Another recording of Chopin's Etudes. While this is a good one, I prefer the versions by Perahia, Pollini and Friere. Quote
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