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1 hour ago, alankin said:

Art BlakeyArt Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (Atlantic Records / Warner Music)
— With Art Blakey – drums; Bill Hardman – trumpet; Johnny Griffin – tenor saxophone; Thelonious Monk – piano; Spanky DeBrest – bass; with three alternate takes

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Has anyone heard the recent SHM-CD release?  I have the 2002 "Atlantic Masters" issued by Warner.  I think it's based on the 1999 Rhino release.  I don't like the sound of the horns - they sound harsh to me.  I don't know if it's due to the original recording, the mastering or maybe my system.
 

If it's a Warner CD that sounds harsh, then it must be the mastering. The Japanese mono CD from a few years back was incredibly bright (and loud). 

Are you familiar with the 2 CDs worth of alternate and incomplete takes that are available in the trading community?

Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk 
Atlantic Studios 
New York, NY 
May 14-15, 1957 

Art Blakey, drums 
Thelonious Monk, piano 
Johnny Griffin, tenor saxophone 
Bill Hardman, trumpet 
Spanky DeBrest, bass 

Source: Master tapes 
Unknown lineage 

Disc 1 = May 14, 1957 
Disc 2 = May 15, 1957 

Disc 1 (59:40) 
01. <Studio intro> - 0:21 
02. Blue Monk (take 1) - 0:10 
03. Blue Monk (take 2) - 2:36 
04. Blue Monk (take 3) - 0:50 
05. Blue Monk (take 4) - 7:50 
06. Blue Monk (take 5) - 1:42 
07. Blue Monk (take 6) - 7:51 
08. Blue Monk (take 7) - 1:26 
09. Blue Monk (take 8) - 7:12 
10. Blue Monk (take 9) - 7:11 
11. Blue Monk (take 10) - 0:10 - ISSUED ALTERNATE TAKE - REMOVED 
12. Evidence (take 2) - 0:29 
13. Evidence (take 3) - 5:34 
14. Evidence (take 4) - 0:09 - ISSUED ALTERNATE TAKE - REMOVED 
15. Evidence (take 5) - 1:00 
16. Evidence (false start) - 0:21 
17. Evidence (take 7) - 6:06 
18. Evidence (take 8) - 0:42 
19. Evidence (take 10) - 1:25 
20. Evidence (false start) - 0:14 
21. Evidence (take 11) - 6:11 

Disc 2 (23:44) 
01. <Studio intro> - 0:10 
02. I Mean You (take 1) - 0:14 
03. I Mean You (take 2) - 1:21 
04. I Mean You (take 3) - 0:07 - ISSUED ALTERNATE TAKE - REMOVED 
05. I Mean You (false start) - 0:33 
06. I Mean You (take 4) - 1:26 
07. I Mean You (take 5) - 1:16 
08. Evidence (take 1) - 0:23 
09. Evidence (take 2) - 6:29 
10. Evidence (take 3) - 1:03 
11. Evidence (take 4) - 6:58 
12. Evidence (take 5) - 0:25 
13. <Studio intro> - 0:10 
14. Blue Monk (take 1) - 0:46 
15. Blue Monk (take 2) - 0:40 
16. Blue Monk (take 3) - 0:48 
17. Blue Monk (take 4) - 0:47 

Total time = 1 hour 23 minutes 24 seconds 

 

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1 hour ago, erwbol said:

If it's a Warner CD that sounds harsh, then it must be the mastering.

Are you familiar with the 2 CDs worth of alternate and incomplete takes that are available in the trading community?

Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk 
Atlantic Studios 
New York, NY 
May 14-15, 1957 

Art Blakey, drums 
Thelonious Monk, piano 
Johnny Griffin, tenor saxophone 
Bill Hardman, trumpet 
Spanky DeBrest, bass 

Source: Master tapes 
Unknown lineage 

Disc 1 = May 14, 1957 
Disc 2 = May 15, 1957 

Disc 1 (59:40) 
01. <Studio intro> - 0:21 
02. Blue Monk (take 1) - 0:10 
03. Blue Monk (take 2) - 2:36 
04. Blue Monk (take 3) - 0:50 
05. Blue Monk (take 4) - 7:50 
06. Blue Monk (take 5) - 1:42 
07. Blue Monk (take 6) - 7:51 
08. Blue Monk (take 7) - 1:26 
09. Blue Monk (take 8) - 7:12 
10. Blue Monk (take 9) - 7:11 
11. Blue Monk (take 10) - 0:10 - ISSUED ALTERNATE TAKE - REMOVED 
12. Evidence (take 2) - 0:29 
13. Evidence (take 3) - 5:34 
14. Evidence (take 4) - 0:09 - ISSUED ALTERNATE TAKE - REMOVED 
15. Evidence (take 5) - 1:00 
16. Evidence (false start) - 0:21 
17. Evidence (take 7) - 6:06 
18. Evidence (take 8) - 0:42 
19. Evidence (take 10) - 1:25 
20. Evidence (false start) - 0:14 
21. Evidence (take 11) - 6:11 

Disc 2 (23:44) 
01. <Studio intro> - 0:10 
02. I Mean You (take 1) - 0:14 
03. I Mean You (take 2) - 1:21 
04. I Mean You (take 3) - 0:07 - ISSUED ALTERNATE TAKE - REMOVED 
05. I Mean You (false start) - 0:33 
06. I Mean You (take 4) - 1:26 
07. I Mean You (take 5) - 1:16 
08. Evidence (take 1) - 0:23 
09. Evidence (take 2) - 6:29 
10. Evidence (take 3) - 1:03 
11. Evidence (take 4) - 6:58 
12. Evidence (take 5) - 0:25 
13. <Studio intro> - 0:10 
14. Blue Monk (take 1) - 0:46 
15. Blue Monk (take 2) - 0:40 
16. Blue Monk (take 3) - 0:48 
17. Blue Monk (take 4) - 0:47 

Total time = 1 hour 23 minutes 24 seconds 

 

No, I didn't know that they were circulating.

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Steve Lacy & Andrea CentazzoTao (Ictus Records) 

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— Soprano sax and percussion duet.
— Live in concert at Zanon Auditorium, Udine, Italy (1976) and in studio, Bolgna (1984).

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18 hours ago, alankin said:

Art BlakeyArt Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (Atlantic Records / Warner Music)
— With Art Blakey – drums; Bill Hardman – trumpet; Johnny Griffin – tenor saxophone; Thelonious Monk – piano; Spanky DeBrest – bass; with three alternate takes

51QiWulHPiL.jpg

Has anyone heard the recent SHM-CD release?  I have the 2002 "Atlantic Masters" issued by Warner.  I think it's based on the 1999 Rhino release.  I don't like the sound of the horns - they sound harsh to me.  I don't know if it's due to the original recording, the mastering or maybe my system.
 

I am now listening to my copy of the 1999 Deluxe 50th anniversary edition and the horns do sound a bit harsh. The disc is not particularly loud. I can comfortably put the volume dial at nine o'clock. I believe the earlier US disc had some extreme stereo separation issues and the recent Japanese mono disc I used to own has boosted highs and so must sound even harsher and probably louder. 

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