Larry Kart Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 Enjoyed both sides of Vol. 1 for sure, but didn't quite see how Buckner's work, enjoyable though it is, is also (as Jim seems to imply) that unusual or weird. Freewheelingly loose it is, if you will, especially in this jam session context, but all the other players seem to deal with it in a more or less unthreatened, swirl of a cape manner, the way a matador might deal with a rampaging bull. Of particular interest, I thought, was the way Roland Hanna (whose solos IIRC follows Buckner's on both tracks) seem to have imbibed some of Milt's freewheeling juice. 5 hours ago, soulpope said: This old warhorse is imperturbable .... Old warhorse? Hand me my cane and sllppers. Quote
HutchFan Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: Old warhorse? Hand me my cane and sllppers. "Old" is a relative term. I'd just turned 8 years old when that record was made in February 1976. So it pre-dates my first forays into jazz by about ten years. Edited November 22, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
Peter Friedman Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, Larry Kart said: Enjoyed both sides of Vol. 1 for sure, but didn't quite see how Buckner's work, enjoyable though it is, is also (as Jim seems to imply) that unusual or weird. Freewheelingly loose it is, if you will, especially in this jam session context, but all the other players seem to deal with it in a more or less unthreatened, swirl of a cape manner, the way a matador might deal with a rampaging bull. Of particular interest, I thought, was the way Roland Hanna (whose solos IIRC follows Buckner's on both tracks) seem to have imbibed some of Milt's freewheeling juice. These kind of lengthy Jam Session recordings are far from favorites of mine. They usually have a few good solos, but just one long set of solos gets rather tedious in my opinion. There are, of course, some exceptions such as the lengthy Jam Session with Bird, Hodges, Carter, etc. I would find these very long tunes much more interesting if there were arrangements with some group playing between and setting off each soloist. Quote
HutchFan Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 34 minutes ago, ghost of miles said: A very special record. Quote
HutchFan Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 Does it bother anyone besides me that the photo on this 1971 recording is from 1947? Sure, that's a terrific photo of Monk -- and a famous one. But why not choose an image that's from around the time that the record was made??? That photo is anachronistic. ... Of course, the music is far beyond all criticism. Quote
Misterioso Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, HutchFan said: Does it bother anyone besides me that the photo on this 1971 recording is from 1947? Count me in. Here is another example for this practice of using cover photos of a much younger musician Chet certainly did not look like that in 1982. Quote
HutchFan Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Misterioso said: Chet certainly did not look like that in 1982. Yep. Another VERY famous anachronistic cover photo: This was the first version of KoB that I purchased. I soon realized that the photo was out-of-time AND reversed! Edited November 22, 2019 by HutchFan Quote
soulpope Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Old warhorse? Hand me my cane and sllppers. 😎 .... Quote
Gheorghe Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 4 hours ago, HutchFan said: Does it bother anyone besides me that the photo on this 1971 recording is from 1947? Sure, that's a terrific photo of Monk -- and a famous one. But why not choose an image that's from around the time that the record was made??? That photo is anachronistic. ... Of course, the music is far beyond all criticism. It bothers me too. I hate to see cover photos that are from another period of the live of the Artists. It also happens in the opposite manner: You see a cover photo of a later period of the Artists, only to discover that the Music is from an early stage of his Career . Quote
soulpope Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: The terrific Avenel + Betsch combo .... Quote
JSngry Posted November 22, 2019 Author Report Posted November 22, 2019 Wayne during these years was like Elliot Carter. Or somebody, I don't know. Just lightening fast (or faster) motivic development in the service of a looooong developmental arc. To do this in an improvisational setting (and comparing all the Lost Quintet performances, the improvisational element is quite well-revealed), is a glorious triumph of some of the human potentials, Quote
Gheorghe Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 I heard Griff in April 1978 just before he returned to the States. This record was done shortly after his return. Then I saw the working quartet with Ronnie Matthews in spring 1980. Quote
soulpope Posted November 22, 2019 Report Posted November 22, 2019 NP .... : Dusky Goykovich "Swinging Macedonia" (Philips) 1967 ..... fascinating early world music project with a top cast .... Quote
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