randyhersom Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 (edited) Timings and a quick compare lead me to ID 2 as The Barbara Song composed by Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill. In other news: Grant Green – First Recordings – CD (Compilation, Remastered), 2013 [r13568700] | Discogs If six was nine ... well it is. Edited November 3 by randyhersom Quote
Dan Gould Posted November 3 Report Posted November 3 2 hours ago, JSngry said: There ta'go. Now to find the album this version is on? I'm not that concerned unless it's something with a lot of orphan tracks that don't exist elsewhere. Quote
JSngry Posted November 3 Author Report Posted November 3 18 minutes ago, randyhersom said: Also track 4 on Black Forrest There ya go! As good as the first-releawd takes. Mostly just balance issues ( like this one) and raggy heads that got them shelved It's a most worthy addition imo 2 hours ago, randyhersom said: Timings and a quick compare lead me to ID 2 as The Barbara Song composed by Bertolt Brecht and Kurt Weill. From The Threepenny Opera, that's it! But there's one notable party not yet named... Quote
randyhersom Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 (edited) On 2, Wayne Shorter does solo on tenor eventually. Edited November 4 by randyhersom Quote
JSngry Posted November 4 Author Report Posted November 4 Exactly! One of his most ephemeral solos, perhaps the most. It is almost inaudible when it ends, dissipating into the mist even more slowly than it enters it. Quote
randyhersom Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 9 is Helena, the last track (#8) from El Chico. Chico and Gabor, but no Dolphy Quote
JSngry Posted November 5 Author Report Posted November 5 50 minutes ago, randyhersom said: 9 is Helena, the last track (#8) from El Chico. Chico and Gabor, but no Dolphy Correct again! The flutist may come a surprise to some, but the bassist shouldn't. Quote
B. Clugston Posted November 10 Report Posted November 10 Track 4 is from André Jolivet’s Pastorales de Noël. Nice post-Debussy vibe. I have no idea who is playing but my wild guess is it’s members of Ornette Coleman’s one-time backup band, the Philadelphia Wind Quintet, plus Marilyn Costello on harp. Quote
JSngry Posted November 10 Author Report Posted November 10 2 hours ago, B. Clugston said: Track 4 is from André Jolivet’s Pastorales de Noël. Nice post-Debussy vibe. I have no idea who is playing but my wild guess is it’s members of Ornette Coleman’s one-time backup band, the Philadelphia Wind Quintet, plus Marilyn Costello on harp. Right on all counts! Quote
tkeith Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago track 01 - Can't make out what's being said, here. Connected to speakers, too. track 02 - Well, certainly sounds like Gil Evans writing, but not sure what it is. Guy's writing is always interesting. Probably doesn't hurt that he always works with killin' musicians, either. Case in point, that certainly sounds like Wayne Shorter. I know two things: 1) I don't have this, 2) I need this. 4.5/5 track 03 - My first thought was Heinz Sauer on tenor, but it's not him -- cleaner sound. Definitely someone with that European influence. Maybe Sean Bergin? No confidence in that guess. Phrasing has Shepp's influence at times (hence the Sauer connection). Not sure how often I'd dig this out, but in the right mood, this is excellent. Non-standard instrumentation. Getting a slight Frank Carlberg vibe from the piano, but this pianist is more melodic. This works. 4/5 track 04 - This one is it bit too programatic for my taste. Interesting composition, stellar musicianship, but not hitting me in the feels. 2.5/5 track 05 - Odd composition. Durge-y, quirky, but also musical. Horn arrangement is pretty straight ahead, but dense. I don't want to say Gil, again, but what else could it be? I don't know this. At 2:45, that line the horns are playing teases Mingus, but SCREAMS Gil. If I had any guts, I'd make the claim, but I'm struggling to commit. I mean, if it's Gil, it's likely a band with Knepper, Rehak and company, so... would explain why it works. 3.5/5 track 06 - Brash tenor. Cookin'. Sounds like Jimmy Forrest to me... a LOT. I'd give time off my life to be able to play like that. Fearless. A-HA! At 2:40, there's a tell -- that's Grant Green, for sure. Ah! Okay, this is in my stacks. Forgot about the drummer (shame on me!). It's track A4 from this. 4/5 track 07 - A little clavé. No idea who it is, but I really like this. Drawing full blanks on the tenor. My guess is these guys are from the 60s. The feel is all there. I'm not getting clear pings on who they are, but that pianist could fit easily into one of Bobby Hutcherson's bands (and probably has). Hand drums feel a bit stiff, but I bet this band caused a little shake in person. Got to see Tito once, and man, am I ever glad I did. That music needs to be EXPERIENCED! 4/5 track 08 - I'm sensing a trend! (just call me Deanna Troi). Live (boot?). Has the feel of somebody like Hal Springer. Pianist has very deliberate phrasing. Makes me wonder if this is a newer recording. McCoyisms in the piano, but also some Kenny Barron influence. Mayhaps a student of the latter? HEAVY McCoy influence. So, an alto (sound was so bad, couldn't be sure on the head). Only guy I've heard approximate that Blakey-shuffle convincingly was Ralph Peterson. Could be him. Alto isn't ringing any definitive bells for me, but is for real. Not Garrett -- more individual to my ear (and less beholden to Trane). Guy is completely putting out there, though. Certainly a post-Coltrane guy, but getting the utmost out of that. 4/5 track 09 - There's a giant hole in my collection to be filled by stuff like this. I don't have enough stuff with flute lead. This is authentic, so it's Latinx musicians doing there thing. I'm woefully unversed in the genre, though. Very tight band, the hits really work. 4/5 track 10 - Wow. Brutish tenor. Almost sounds like Sonny Criss might sound on tenor. Got that little lilt in his phrasing like Sonny. Am I crazy or do I actually know this tune? Something mighty familiar about that line. Man! This is KILLIN'! 5/5 Two things not a surprise: 1) A lot here I don't know, and 2) A lot here worth listening to. Well played, sir... well played. Quote
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